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Just having a look through the new World Rankings and there are some interesting points to think about.

Firstly, If Rory Mclroy can stay at 50 or improve by this time next week, he'll get an invite to the Masters. Ross Fisher and Oli Wilson should be there too.

Big-shot Kim has dropped out the top 10 (shame) and Sergio is only 4 points behind Tiger at the top. Assuming Tiger's not back in business till March, if Sergio wins some early next year - you never know he might just over take the great one.

Also, New US Ryder Cup captain Corey Pavin (254) is higher in the rankings than some our well known players like Phil Archer (257)and Simon Khan (272)
 

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It is highly unlikely that Sergio will over take Tiger at the top--a four point lead is significant--Sergio has less than a four point lead over Westwood who is tenth.
Tiger earned more points in 2008 than Sergio even though he only played half the season.
 

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Although not entirely made my mind up about Rory, there does seem to be a distinct talent there, even in its imaturity. He is still feeling his way I believe, so he can be forgive a lot I supose.

As for Sergio, looking forward to another good season from the Spanish wonder.
 

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I think the fact that Tiger has been out of action since June, shows just how good a golfer he is. To be that far ahead. If Tiger had not been injured then it would have been whoever is Number 2 is the best golfer because Tiger is in a league of his own, I mean he won the US Open on one leg.
 

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It is highly unlikely that Sergio will over take Tiger at the top--a four point lead is significant--Sergio has less than a four point lead over Westwood who is tenth.
Tiger earned more points in 2008 than Sergio even though he only played half the season.

Found this on a US website:-

"At his current rate of leakage, about 1.1% per week, he will be reduced to about 10.5 ranking points by the time of the Masters."

So if Garcia does win 2 or 3 events before the Masters you never know.
 

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Im thinking Sergio is winning a major this year, he has come so close a few times now so i think 2009 will be his year.

I also think McIlroy is making world top 20 by the end of the season, of all the "young ones" coming through i think he has that little bit more flair?

I also think Robert Dinwiddie is one to watch next year!
 

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What does it matter whether Sergio is No.1 when the Masters comes round? He will not be recognised as the 'real' No.1, certainly not by USTV. It will be the same as the arguments earlier in the year, upheld by some on here, that The Open Champion wouldn't be a real champion because Tiger wasn't there.

Get to the Masters and win it, then it will make a difference.
 

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The Ranking System is fundamentally flawed as far a I'm concerned. Tiger comes out tops because he plays well but only plays a limited number of times in the year. Other players play week in & week out and but because they play more and loose points they end up with a lower rating.

It's not Tigers fault, he's only playing a flawed system. If he had to play more often I dont think the gap between 1 & 2 would be so large.

How can someone who hasn't played since June still be the number one player in December ?
 

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It's a similar to the handicap system. If you play every week in comps then your handicap will change, but if you play not as often then your H/C won't change.

How can someone who hasn't played since June still be the number one player in December ?

It's a testement to how good he is.
 

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Junior Captian,

No, its statistics and the way they are manipulated. Its a flawed system initially designed by one of the management companies.

Time for a change to show actual current form and results and base a rankings system on that.

Why does Tiger not play on courses with certain types of grass on the greens ? It would make a dent in his ststs so.... he doesn't play there, he goes somewhere else instead or doesn't play that week.

As for Appearance money (which doesn't actually exist) thats another subject.

Rant over
 

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Should he be allowed to play at another event in the same week? I think that there should be one world ranking event per tour, per week. This way you can't play at another event because you don't like the type of grass in the greens etc. That means if he doesn't feel comfortable at a course he could lose out on points, it also means that the standard of golf will be a lot higher, e.g. rather than having a few world class pros attending (Sergio, Tiger etc) more and more are present, thus making the field a lot tougher than it already is(not that it isn't tough already). This will make the winners more varied and the Order of Merit a lot tighter.

(Please don't kill me :))
 

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If Garcia overtakes Tiger then it will simply show how daft the rankings are. Woods has won 14 majors. Sergio has won how many? :D
 

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The problem if you have one event every week that carrys the world ranking points is that you will quickly polarise the rest of the tour (European and PGA) as the top guys will all go chasing the points and a lot of guys won't get starting places and therefore have no chance to win and get said points and climb the rankings
 

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Its very complicated, and to be frank it effects me in no way what so ever because the player that I follow, Luke Donald, is never going to challenge for top spot, so I don't see what the fuss is about. However that aside, Shanker, you do have a very good point.

If Garcia overtakes Tiger then it will simply show how daft the rankings are. Woods has won 14 majors. Sergio has won how many?

That is a prime example of why the system should change.

Sorry if I have come across a bit harsh.
 
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