World Handicap System

Colin L

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What is happening in my experience is most folk are using either their playing handicaps from individaul comps or the differences between the indexes. I haven't yet encountered anyone using rounded CH values from the charts as a basis to work anything out.

I have been asked on more than one occasion on the first tee what the proper playing handicaps should be and could I work everything out for everyone but have always politely declined, usually because early on a Saturday morning, the last thing the queue of players wants to watch on the tee is me on my mobile phone calculator app.
A good illustration, I'd suggest, of what I was saying. Players should use the unrounded CH shown on their app or a chart in those circumstances.. If they are not using their course handicaps at all, that is fundamental. Some player education needed ?
 

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A good illustration, I'd suggest, of what I was saying. Players should use the unrounded CH shown on their app or a chart in those circumstances.. If they are not using their course handicaps at all, that is fundamental. Some player education needed ?
I don't think it helps that there have been no scorecards to fill in since WHS was launched, so knowing your CH is largely an irrelevance in competition golf i.e. you don't need to know your CH to write it on your card as there are no cards and the app tells you your PH when you sign in and your new index after the comp rounds hit your handicap record. So all most folk know handicap wise in the new world is PH and Index.

You mention unrounded CH's on apps. Our club use V1 so I have HDID and the Scottish Golf app, but neither of these show unrounded CH's as far as I can see?
 
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I don't think it helps that there have been no scorecards to fill in since WHS was launched, so knowing your CH is largely an irrelevance in competition golf i.e. you don't need to know your CH to write it on your card as there are no cards and the app tells you your PH when you sign in and your new index after the comp rounds hit your handicap record. So all most folk know handicap wise in the new world is PH and Index.

You mention unrounded CH's on apps. Our club use V1 so I have HDID and the Scottish Golf app, but neither of these show unrounded CH's as far as I can see?
Maybe use your calculator function on the phone? Remember, it's up to the player to ensure that the correct handicap is on his or her "card" - it is not a Committee responsibility.
I would go along with player education required!
 
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I don't think it helps that there have been no scorecards to fill in since WHS was launched, so knowing your CH is largely an irrelevance in competition golf i.e. you don't need to know your CH to write it on your card as there are no cards and the app tells you your PH when you sign in and your new index after the comp rounds hit your handicap record. So all most folk know handicap wise in the new world is PH and Index.

You mention unrounded CH's on apps. Our club use V1 so I have HDID and the Scottish Golf app, but neither of these show unrounded CH's as far as I can see?
I use Scottish Golf app for scoring - when playing in a competition it shows PH. When playing a General Play round it shows CH.
There is no reason for it to show unfounded CH
 

Colin L

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I don't think it helps that there have been no scorecards to fill in since WHS was launched, so knowing your CH is largely an irrelevance in competition golf i.e. you don't need to know your CH to write it on your card as there are no cards and the app tells you your PH when you sign in and your new index after the comp rounds hit your handicap record. So all most folk know handicap wise in the new world is PH and Index.

You mention unrounded CH's on apps. Our club use V1 so I have HDID and the Scottish Golf app, but neither of these show unrounded CH's as far as I can see?
On the SG app, go into "Course Lookup" and enter any Scottish course and you will get your course handicap for each set of tees, 18 holes, front 9 and back 9
 
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I don't think it helps that there have been no scorecards to fill in since WHS was launched, so knowing your CH is largely an irrelevance in competition golf i.e. you don't need to know your CH to write it on your card as there are no cards and the app tells you your PH when you sign in and your new index after the comp rounds hit your handicap record. So all most folk know handicap wise in the new world is PH and Index.

You mention unrounded CH's on apps. Our club use V1 so I have HDID and the Scottish Golf app, but neither of these show unrounded CH's as far as I can see?
Indeed they don't, I had this argument with SG at the start of the season, how do you expect people to understand that you're using the exact CH, when even your glorious App uses the rounded one. There'd been a few comments back and forth before then, that was the last email on the subject, they've still not explained the logic.
 

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FYI...here's an example of a Playing Handicap Board from a course close to me (in England)...
Because of the way Playing Handicaps are calculated in single ball team formats (i.e. 50% combined in foursomes, and the sum of unrounded individual allowances in greensomes & scrambles), half of these columns (60% and below) are unhelpful at best. And that's before even contemplating any mixed-tee allowances.
 

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What formats require the calculation of a playing handicap in the WHS which didn't in the CONGU system?
Singles stroke play. Singles match play. Basically, nearly every round of golf I ever played. The only time I needed to worry about percentages was when taking 90% the difference in fourball match play.
 

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You mean in the days when all had to use one of these

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Never ever used one of these or needed one. Only times some odd % allowance was required was when a comp organiser at an open decided upon themselves to introduce that condition. Likely to protect against higher handicappers rather than a mandatory condition set by CONGU. And, if this condition was set, the organisers usually wrote your playing handicap on the card anyway.
 

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Singles stroke play. Singles match play. Basically, nearly every round of golf I ever played. The only time I needed to worry about percentages was when taking 90% the difference in fourball match play.
It's only relatively recently (2008, I think) that singles match play went to full difference, and only a few years ago that four-ball match play went to 9/10.
 
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