World environment question

[Bunkermagnet]

I fully understand this has the potential to get heavy or shouty but it something I need to ask...
Having watched the first Blue planet 2 program with the images and commentary about the changing planet, warming sea temps and importance of things like the Gulf Stream and how increased CO2 levels are a good reason for this.
Couple this with the recent report saying that World co2 levels are at their highest ever, I wonder are we becoming a country fully of nimbies?

We have now decided that diesel is more harmful locally than petrol, and whilst alternative fuels are and will be developed, electricity the current favourite still has to be produced with the resultant pollution that creates at all levels, so are we becoming only self interested?

Is the localised increase in air pollution better than the global increase in co2 or should we accept that the lives lost to localised air pollution are better than the millions who may be lost to the effects of greater world co2 and its possible global warming effects?

Just a thought that's all.

 

[FairwayDodger]

I think our society would probably break down without electricity such is our dependence on it. Fortunately electricity production doesn’t have to omit greenhouse gases. However the alternatives also have their opponents.

 

[PhilTheFragger]

I think our society would probably break down without electricity such is our dependence on it. Fortunately electricity production doesn’t have to omit greenhouse gases. However the alternatives also have their opponents.

Think you mean "emit".

Every form of electricity production has some form of pollution associated with it, even Solar and wind as you have to make the turbines /Solar cells, frames etc
However we are one of the cleaner countries, the real problems are in China, India, Russia USA. All big countries with huge populations who between them are responsible for a huge chunk of CO2 etc

thats the main problem, tackling the big boys

 

[USER1999]

I think you can also chuck litter into the debate. There was a thing in the papers recently about a 5 mile stream of plastic waste in the caribean, poisoning the ocean. Even on a local scale, the woods near me are full of plastic bottles, cans, and crisp packets. We really are messing in our own bed.

 

[Kellfire]

Nuclear is the only way to go. It's a shame that people are so scared of it.

 

[sawtooth]

I fully understand this has the potential to get heavy or shouty but it something I need to ask...
Having watched the first Blue planet 2 program with the images and commentary about the changing planet, warming sea temps and importance of things like the Gulf Stream and how increased CO2 levels are a good reason for this.
Couple this with the recent report saying that World co2 levels are at their highest ever, I wonder are we becoming a country fully of nimbies?

We have now decided that diesel is more harmful locally than petrol, and whilst alternative fuels are and will be developed, electricity the current favourite still has to be produced with the resultant pollution that creates at all levels, so are we becoming only self interested?

Is the localised increase in air pollution better than the global increase in co2 or should we accept that the lives lost to localised air pollution are better than the millions who may be lost to the effects of greater world co2 and its possible global warming effects?

Just a thought that's all.

I’m skeptical about global warming. I can’t see how we can be sure that this is not a natural and cyclical phenomenon when we have only been on this planet for 5 minutes.

 

[Doon frae Troon]

Nothing to see here, move along quietly please.

www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-highlands-islands-41795836

 

[DCB]

Nuclear is the only way to go. It's a shame that people are so scared of it.

It's certainly the only way we can meet sudden spikes in demand if we've done away with all our coal & gas fires power stations.

 

[srixon 1]

I’m skeptical about global warming. I can’t see how we can be sure that this is not a natural and cyclical phenomenon when we have only been on this planet for 5 minutes.

I'm with you on this one.

 

[FairwayDodger]

Think you mean "emit".

You reckon?

 

[bigslice]

I can remember reading an artical saying that cows mooo emit more co2 than cars planes combined.

 

[FairwayDodger]

I’m skeptical about global warming. I can’t see how we can be sure that this is not a natural and cyclical phenomenon when we have only been on this planet for 5 minutes.

I think that puts you at odds with about 90% of the scientific community.

 

[jim8flog]

Every little helps.

I live in farming country, before they insisted on lead free petrol they reckoned crops besides the main road were laden with the stuff.

 

[Beezerk]

I can remember reading an artical saying that cows mooo emit more co2 than cars planes combined.

Isn’t it also the case that 1 ocean liner emits the same amount of pollution per day than 5 million deisel cars?
The problem is huge, we’re all doomed.

 

[Lazkir]

I’m skeptical about global warming. I can’t see how we can be sure that this is not a natural and cyclical phenomenon when we have only been on this planet for 5 minutes.

I'm with you on this one.

I used to be a skeptic until I actually looked at some of the temperature figures. The relatively 'massive' spike that's occurred over the last 100 years is hard to explain away when looked at over the last few thousand years or so.
Yes I realise figures can be manipulated and massaged to produce whatever you want, but that way can lie madness.

Nuclear is definitely the way to go, but the greens are fanatical fundamentalists where it comes to this, despite all the evidence against them.
Hopefully there'll be a fusion breakthrough in the next fifty years or so.


Eta link. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tempe...dia/File:2000_Year_Temperature_Comparison.png

 

[dewsweeper]

Nothing to see here, move along quietly please.

www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-highlands-islands-41795836

Fishing again, Doon ?

 

[MegaSteve]

I’m skeptical about global warming. I can’t see how we can be sure that this is not a natural and cyclical phenomenon when we have only been on this planet for 5 minutes.

Unless we change our ways can't see the planet surviving another second let alone a minute...

 

[Crazyface]

I think that puts you at odds with about 90% of the scientific community.

And that means he's wrong does it?

 

[Lord Tyrion]

One of the complications of the independence of the scientific community now is that many are part of the industry and so have a vested interest in climate change. This muddies the water of what is being said and who to believe. I have no doubt that we are impacting on the climate but by what amount, what is causing it and what the solutions are are a little more open to discussion.

 

[MegaSteve]

One of the complications of the independence of the scientific community now is that many are part of the industry and so have a vested interest in climate change. This muddies the water of what is being said and who to believe. I have no doubt that we are impacting on the climate but by what amount, what is causing it and what the solutions are are a little more open to discussion.

Do we really need opinions of others to see/feel that we are hurting our own planet...

We are only here for a very short time the least we can do is look after what we have...
Or, better still, make it better for the next lot of custodians...