Whos in the wrong?

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So last week, I had a bit of a row with one of the "old boys" and committee members, and being a newbie, didn't know whether I had made a mistake.

So its a long uphill par 4, usually played as a par 5 (Definitely in the winter) hard to see he green from the bottom of the hill where you would play your 2nd shot from.

My drive has landed right hand side of first cut, about 240yards from the green, wind against, and uphill (not a small slope either) all winter I have been playing the same shot (Always seem to drive it there) and leaving myself a good 30yards from the green and thats with less wind!

So ive played my shot, with an 18degree hybrid, and seen it go straight, and thought great (Cant see green) yet suddenly, I see someone waving at me furiously on the green.

So as i walk up, i realise my ball has just crept onto the front of the green. As im approaching the group who are now on their next tee, I shout to apologize and start explaining how I never get close. He starts raring up and going mad at me and saying it happened to him twice last week

Now I made a genuine mistake, and apologized instantly, and I wasnt aware it had happened to him last week. It turned out that the week before it happened twice because he was in a four ball, and they wouldnt let a 2 ball behind them play through.

Now I got worried because I ended up getting quite heated with a committee member, but feel I genuinely made an error of judgement and tried to apologise hoping it would go no further.
 
You are actually in the wrong but seems it was a genuine mistake and you did the right thing by offering an apology. Sounds like the guy over reacted to be honest but I wouldn't worry about it too much. These things happen, you said sorry and it only just got on the front of the green. No harm done this time.
 
drive4show said:
You are actually in the wrong but seems it was a genuine mistake and you did the right thing by offering an apology. Sounds like the guy over reacted to be honest but I wouldn't worry about it too much. These things happen, you said sorry and it only just got on the front of the green. No harm done this time.
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Agree with this 100%, It was a genuine mistake, We have all done it and had it done to at some point.
 
Unfortunately it's your responsibility to make sure that the green is clear before you play your approach shot.

However if the green in blind and he's on the committee, given that it also happened last week suggests it's a common occurrence and as a club or committee member, somebody should apply some common sense and recommend that a bell is installed to let people know the green is clear.

Given that you apologised and it was a genuine mistake I wouldn't worry about it but in your position I'd be tempted to put a letter in to the committee recommending that a bell is installed using this incident as suitable justification
 
drive4show said:
You are actually in the wrong but seems it was a genuine mistake and you did the right thing by offering an apology. Sounds like the guy over reacted to be honest but I wouldn't worry about it too much. These things happen, you said sorry and it only just got on the front of the green. No harm done this time.
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Yep this for me

You are in the wrong for hitting the green whilst they were on it but it was a genuine mistake and you offered an apology

He is in the wrong for his over the top reaction towards you and his apparent unwillingness to accept an apology
 
Sounds like the guy must be a bit of a plank IMO. Don't worry about it.

I never worry about a ball catching the front of the green in the circumstances you describe.
Usually congratulate them on a good shot.
If they did not say sorry I might say something though!
 
As per D4S...

You made a mistake, so there's certainly fault on your part. From what you have said, an apology seems quite reasonable, which you obviously attempted.

The over-reaction from the 'victim' is something you have no control over, so don't worry about it.

It does raise the question whether there should be a bell or similar facility to 'protect' the guys on the green. It seems an obvious place where accidents could happen and by the frequency that it has happened to the guy - and now awareness from a Committee member, something should be done fast! That's a Club responsibility!
 
Thats what I figured, so that makes me feel better!

I can understand him being a bit annoyed, but he was obviously ignorant to letting people play through in the past, and on top it literally bobbled on so never caused danger. A mistake on my part and an overreaction on his
 
Yeah you were wrong but these things happen.
On our course we have 3 holes that are blind tee or second shots and all have bells letting players know the green is clear. common sence really.
 
drive4show said:
You are actually in the wrong but seems it was a genuine mistake and you did the right thing by offering an apology. Sounds like the guy over reacted to be honest but I wouldn't worry about it too much. These things happen, you said sorry and it only just got on the front of the green. No harm done this time.
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This is how I feel about this.

I had an instance a while ago where I missed another player by only a foot or so, I was playing a 7 wood into a green from 20 yards, hit a slight slice. When I played the shot the group in front had waked off the green. As the ball traveled one on the group in front stopped beside one of the green side bunkers, my ball missed him by a foot or so. I called a good clear fore and went over to apologize on the next tee. The guy just stared me down and never said a word then turned and walked off. I was a little annoyed that he did not say a word or accept my apology however if that's how he wants to be I just let him get on with it no point getting in a row imho. I did feel better when I won the comp though, just imagined the winnings were that arrogant so and so's entry's fee.

My feeling on it all is that no one means to hit another golfer, if you accidentally get close to another golfer you should call fore and apologize that apology should be accepted and be the end of it.
 
You were in the wrong initially but the guy's reaction was way OTT. If anything is mentioned back in the clubhouse apologise again but say you found his actions threatening and unacceptable. Don't take all the blame as both sides were at fault. Of course, if you hit a shot at an empty green and the group in front decide to meander back as the ball is on its way then I think you would be exonerated surely. Just check no one defaces your ball in protest :whistle:
 
Of course the next complaint you'll get is when they are behind you, and get annoyed at you waiting for a green to clear from 240 yds out ;)
 
Personally I dont even think you were in the wrong. You played a shot in good faith that it wouldnt reach (nothing wrong about that), it did reach, barely i might add, as you state, so you apologised. Job done as far as I'm concerned.

We play our tee shots on our 3 long par 3's when the group ahead are on the green (course rules), just give it a holler if its on the right path.

Think nothing of it mate, no need to lose sleep.
 
TheJezster said:
Personally I dont even think you were in the wrong. You played a shot in good faith that it wouldnt reach (nothing wrong about that), it did reach, barely i might add, as you state, so you apologised. Job done as far as I'm concerned.
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Sorry but this is an irresponsible attitude. It is the player's responsibility to ensure it is clear before you play a shot. If you hit someone on the green you can't say you are not at fault.
 
TheJezster said:
Personally I dont even think you were in the wrong. You played a shot in good faith that it wouldnt reach (nothing wrong about that), it did reach, barely i might add, as you state, so you apologised. Job done as far as I'm concerned.

We play our tee shots on our 3 long par 3's when the group ahead are on the green (course rules), just give it a holler if its on the right path.

Think nothing of it mate, no need to lose sleep.
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I agree with this. You played your shot in the honest and reasonable belief it wouldn't reach, it rolled on to the front so no danger caused, you'll learn from it, there was no harm done and any breach of etiquette was remedied by your apology.

If he wants to be a tool let him get on with it don't lose any sleep worrying about it. You can guarantee he was running up a cricket score - these things don't bother people that are playing well.
 
drive4show said:
Sorry but this is an irresponsible attitude. It is the player's responsibility to ensure it is clear before you play a shot. If you hit someone on the green you can't say you are not at fault.
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Agree 100% you were in the wrong you cant say I don't normally when you did and I also think you should have taken your telling off without reacting
 
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