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OK, this shows my true inexperience in the golfing world, and I blame it to not being a member of a club.

However, I have only just worked out exactly how Handicap's are calculated, with the SI included.

Which leads me to my next question. When you tell the forum, I shot, let's say for the sake of argument, 94. Is this number the exact amount of shots you took, or is it the number you shot after the score is adjusted based on your handicap and SI?
 
I'll say either 71 gross or 71 net

Not sure what you mean in your last comment ? HC based on SI ?
 
TheCaddie said:
OK, this shows my true inexperience in the golfing world, and I blame it to not being a member of a club.

However, I have only just worked out exactly how Handicap's are calculated, with the SI included.

Which leads me to my next question. When you tell the forum, I shot, let's say for the sake of argument, 94. Is this number the exact amount of shots you took, or is it the number you shot after the score is adjusted based on your handicap and SI?
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Gross score, not net.
 
Liverpoolphil said:
I'll say either 71 gross or 71 net

Not sure what you mean in your last comment ? HC based on SI ?
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Well based on your handicap, and the stroke index, you can have quite a few shots knocked off (for a higher handicap).

I suppose the point i am getting at, is that recently I have shot 102 actual strokes, but based on a handicap of say 24. My 'score' would be 95.

Therefore, would I tell you lot I shot 95, or 102? :)
 
TheCaddie said:
OK, this shows my true inexperience in the golfing world, and I blame it to not being a member of a club.

However, I have only just worked out exactly how Handicap's are calculated, with the SI included.

Which leads me to my next question. When you tell the forum, I shot, let's say for the sake of argument, 94. Is this number the exact amount of shots you took, or is it the number you shot after the score is adjusted based on your handicap and SI?
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SI only comes into play in matchplay and stableford - in the former when a 'handicap difference'-based calculation (the precise calculation being specific to the type of matchplay competition) determines the number of shots given/received - and the hole SI tells the players the exact holes on which the shot are given/received.

The latter when a handicap-based calculation (the precise calculation being specific to the type of stableford competition) for each player determines the number of shots a player will get and the SI tells him the holes he will get one or more shots.
 
TheCaddie said:
Well based on your handicap, and the stroke index, you can have quite a few shots knocked off (for a higher handicap).

I suppose the point i am getting at, is that recently I have shot 102 actual strokes, but based on a handicap of say 24. My 'score' would be 95.

Therefore, would I tell you lot I shot 95, or 102? :)
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Surely if you shot 102 off a handicap of 24, your 'score' (net score) would be 78? How did you get to 95?
 
TheCaddie said:
Well based on your handicap, and the stroke index, you can have quite a few shots knocked off (for a higher handicap).

I suppose the point i am getting at, is that recently I have shot 102 actual strokes, but based on a handicap of say 24. My 'score' would be 95.

Therefore, would I tell you lot I shot 95, or 102? :)
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Yes but the Stroke Index doesn't have anything to with your net and gross scores

It's only relevant for Matchplay and Stableford
 
Gross score only as that is exactly what you took to go round 18 holes and is the only true reflection of a round in my humbling opinion.
 
Depends what type of comp' I'm playing - if a medal I'll say "I shot 85 gross, net 79", or if a stableford I might say I shot "X plus 2 holes, for 30 points" (notice neither is under handicap:().

The SI only really comes into stableford scoring, for stableford points and/or handicap calculations.
 
If you go around in 95 and your handicap, for simplicity, is 20 then in the bar afterwards you can say you had a gross 95, nett 75. On the forum people pretty much always talk the gross score, ie the number of shots you actually took.

Personally I have learnt never to talk numbers or distances as "size" certainly seems to matter on here. Talk about how you are improving/going backwards, enjoying golf/getting frustrated by golf but not exact figures. Go for it but you have been warned :thup:
 
[TABLE="class: gTable, width: 350, align: center"]
[TR]
[TH="bgcolor: #F0F0F0, colspan: 2"]How does my handicap increase?[/TH]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]Adjusted Score - SSS = Gross Score

Gross Score - Handicap = Net Score

If Net Score > Buffer then ADD 0.1

Running Handicap + 0.1

New Handicap calculated[/TD]
[TD="width: 100"]103 - 70 = 33

32 - 28 = 5

5 is > +4

28.0 + 0.1

28.1
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[/TR]
[/TABLE]


based on the above though, Gross would be 33 and Net 5?!?!
 
Weird, I have been looking at this most of the day and I was sent into a dizzy turn. I just always use the gross score all the time. I went round in 95 last night. That's just it. I keep it simple. Get better, go round in less strokes and handicap really only applies if I'm playing against folk who are really realy good. Even then I still don't find it fair when they have worked a lot harder on their game than me.
 
Lord Tyrion said:
If you go around in 95 and your handicap, for simplicity, is 20 then in the bar afterwards you can say you had a gross 95, nett 75. On the forum people pretty much always talk the gross score, ie the number of shots you actually took.

Personally I have learnt never to talk numbers or distances as "size" certainly seems to matter on here. Talk about how you are improving/going backwards, enjoying golf/getting frustrated by golf but not exact figures. Go for it but you have been warned :thup:
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This is useful, but my question is.... if you say you went around in 95. Is that your exact score, OR, is it your score which has been amended? I.E, say you got blew out and got a 9 on a par 4. Do you take 3 shots off and say it is a 6? I.E Are you saying you got 95, when your exact score would be 98. Or are you saying you got 95, with the amendments of nothing being more than a double bogey?
 
I shot 86 the other day and my score includes the 9 I took on a par 5. I had 86 shots, so that's my score. Seems like you're over-complicating things a little. Gross = your number of shots. Net = gross - handicap. Simple.
 
The gross is the number of shots you took, period. No taking off shots, no handicap, no nothing. How many bats did you take? That is your gross. Your nett is that figure minus your handicap. No more, no less.

The figure you are searching for is a whole other mess of complication that I do not understand or even attempt to understand. Don't cloud your mind. Gross and nett are all you really need, anything else gets worked out by HC committees.

As has already been mentioned the key really is gross as that is how you are genuinely measured and judged.
 
Gross score will be used if someone asks what I shot. Unless it is a stableford comp, in which case, I'll say how many points
 
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