What's worse and why?

[Fish]

So you know someone used to or has stolen something in the past, could they change and could you trust them again, over time?

You know someone has a violent past, would you always feel uncomfortable around them, or could they change and it not overly concern you again, over time?

You know someone who works and has family that is addicted or takes drugs on a regular basis, do you trust them and can you still associate with them? and if not why?

You know someone constantly lies, could they change or ever be believable again, over time?

You know someone has cheated at something (not just golf), could they change and could you trust/play with them again, over time?


I understand the level of any crime could sway some decisions so let's say for this purpose they are not at the extreme end of the crimes/offences referred to.

 

[guest100718]

who cares.

 

[Slab]

If you know these things about these people then most are manageable to a degree i.e if you know someone consistently lies you treat anything they say with that mindset

The least manageable trait i'd say is the violent person

 

[Deleted member 16999]

I think it depends on the relationship between you and the person, if the person had done some of the stuff to me personally then I would find it very difficult to move on/ forgive from certain things, (but that's my issue not theirs) if I was aware of the some of the things they'd done, but had not been directly impacted on, I would be wary of them.
I do believe people can change and we've all made mistakes, most new people I meet I take on face value and try not to pre-judge.
Turned up in the summer to play Golf, bloke on his own asked if I wanted to make a 2 Ball, seemed a decent enough guy, no serious conversations, just your normal banter, 2 days later approached by another member who I know well, who warned me to be careful around the other bloke as he had been sacked from the Welfare club for fiddling the books, I did ask a few questions, the sacking took place in 1983! I just laughed, but some of the locals who usrd the club have never forgiven him.

 

[Ross61]

I would not trust someone convicted of sexual assault, especially with a child, to be anywhere near my wife or children when they are alone.

 

[Kellfire]

who cares.

Fish would be my guess.

 

[Papas1982]

A lot depends on the level of the crime.

I think most people would find anything involving children as unforgivable.

i chose drugs, if people wish to have a drink or a little smoke o see no harm. But in my experience, it can be the most distructive with many addicts going on to commit many other crimes including violence and theft to fund the habit.

 

[Khamelion]

A liar.

My mam always said if you lie you will always get found out. The more you lie the bigger and deeper the hole you dig, and the more lies you have to tell to get yourself out of the mire.

 

[Tashyboy]

Lying, it is one thing I detest. Do you take drugs, no. Liar. Are you a violent person, No. liar. Have you cheated, no Liar.

Once went on an adoption course, one of the tests. On the wall was thirty words, you had to pick the most important one. Words like Love, rich, family and Liar, it stood out like a spot on Samantha foxs bum on page 3.
Anyway, there was about 16 of us in the class. I was asked which word I had picked as I had finished/picked me word in about three seconds. "lying" I said, "nah, there's more important words than that I was told. " Really, we will see". The class was then asked to put there hands up if they picked love. Most of them did, including me. The social worker said to me " you can't of done you picked Liar". I told her I was Lying. She wasn't impressed. She asked who had picked family 3 or 4 folk picked family, including me. There was steam coming out of her ears. When I told her I had lied.
Apparently it is not the done thing to question a social workers "angle". My point was that you can tell someone you love them, but if you are lying. You can tell someone you are rich, tell someone they can keep a secret etc etc.

 

[Tashyboy]

Fish would be my guess.

Snigger. :rofl:

 

[Deleted member 15344]

Violence - people that resort to their fists or exerting physical violence on someone will IMO always have the ability to react badly and violently , it's one act that can damage someone for life and it's always IMO an act of coward. They more than likely start of as the school yard bully and transgress from that. The worst is violence towards the vulnerable - old people , kids and women. Gutless anyone who raises their fists to people.

 

[pokerjoke]

Theft-yes I have stolen when I was younger
Violence -yes when I was younger
Drugs -yes when I was younger
Liar-yes I have lied in the past
Cheater-yes I have cheated

Theft-never now I don't need too
Violence-this will depend on the circumstances I would kill anyone that messed with my wife or kids probably the same as 99.9% of people on here.
Drugs-never
Liar-never
Cheater-never.

Which is the worst hard to say but dependant on circumstances

 

[richy]

It surely has to depend on the circumstances? If you're on a night out with the missus and someone insults her or something, you're telling me you aren't going to confront the person? That sounds like the real coward

 

[Deleted member 15344]

It surely has to depend on the circumstances? If you're on a night out with the missus and someone insults her or something, you're telling me you aren't going to confront the person? That sounds like the real coward

Does it not take the bigger person to walk away and not react to words with physical violence ?

 

[Hobbit]

Theft, I wouldn't trust a thief unless it was petty theft and a long, long time ago.

Violence, someone who resorts to violence worries me. I just can't get my head around the why. And what is the trigger? No, I don't understand it.

Drugs, I knew a guy who smoked dope on a Friday evening. He was a gentle easy going guy without them. Didn't understand that one either. But what the difference between a joint and four pints, apart from the legality? As for hard drugs... one of my work colleagues a couple of jobs back had a son who was on heroin - horrendous. He was evil when he needed a fix.

Liar, there's white lies, and Walter Mittys, and then there's con artists. The first one does little harm. The second one is a pain. The third one I wouldn't want to be around.

Cheaters, I don't like it. I've seen it on the golf course, the leather wedge and worse. Known cheats I just won't play with. I spend too much time watching and worrying about what they are doing.

 

[Papas1982]

Does it not take the bigger person to walk away and not react to words with physical violence ?

I think there is a fine line. I don't think it's right going looking for trouble. But I also think there can come a point when you stand your ground.

Needless aggression to look the the big man is pathetic in my mind. Generally if someone is talking trash then just standing your ground will make them shrink without the need of violence.

 

[Tashyboy]

Does it not take the bigger person to walk away and not react to words with physical violence ?

It does phil, but sometimes even the quietest of people have a " breaking point".
Two incidents spring to mind.
one during the miners strike, a very timid guy was regularly abused and bullied by some pickets, usually a gang. He was an easy target. But one Friday night, he was walking home from the welfare and one picket followed him on his own and started waving a Bow saw he had hidden in hedge and threatened to cut his head off and then his families. This guy " lost it" and beat said picket to an inch of his life. The whole village was gobsmacked this bloke could do this.
second one, millennium New Year's Eve, at me mums house, or should I say flippin freezing garage full of her neighbours and family, anyway a few folk had drank to much and me mum ended up getting shoved over and her head was cut. A minute later me niece is stood at the end of the drive arguing with her partner, he points his finger in me brothers face and says he means eff all to me. Points it at me and says he means eff all to me and at that point me fist hit his chin. He was 6ft 4 and hit the deck. My head had gone and I started laying the boot in. If it had not been for my brother I could of hurt him. Within a minute of calming down the reality of what I had done had sunk in. Gutted was an understatement. I did apologise to him, and he said he had overstepped the mark.
but my point is that sometimes violence is the only thing that bullies understand.

 

[SocketRocket]

If only life was so simple that all these actions were binary.

Theft: How wrong would it be for a starving person to steal a handful of food from their oppressors?

Violence: Is the person that attacks someone who is putting another in grave danger wrong?

Drugs: Is the person taking Marijuana to help with chronic pain relief doing wrong?

Liar: If the lie was used to protect another from distress would it be wrong?

Cheater: I am struggling to defend this one.

 

[HomerJSimpson]

Hard to say. I will always give someone the benefit of the doubt once, but not twice.

 

[Pin-seeker]

Cheater: I am struggling to defend this one.

If a solid 10 put it on a plate for you?