What wedges vokeys or mack daddy 2

[GeeTee]

Hi folks
Just looking for a bit of info on wedges . I've contacted kings acre and St Andrews links to see about fitting for wedges . I'm wondering what you're thoughts are on both wedges .
My playing partner uses the mack daddy 2 and really rates them but I bought an sm4 cheap of eBay and get on well with it .
Any thoughts appreciated

 

[duncan mackie]

I would get clubs on the basis of
1. fitting
2. what works for me

I wouldn't get clubs on the basis that they work for someone else

 

[hovis]

I use mcdaddy two wedges and the biggest thing i have noticed is just how much spin i get out the rough. My pp who is a scatch player switched to them from vokeys and hasn't looked back

 

[Ethan]

Both excellent wedges. Impossible to say here which one suits you best. Depends on the course you play, how you hit the ball, your preferences for spin and aesthetics, etc etc.

 

[GeeTee]

Both excellent wedges. Impossible to say here which one suits you best. Depends on the course you play, how you hit the ball, your preferences for spin and aesthetics, etc etc.

theres more of a choice in grinds bounce with the vokeys which kinda sways me more towards them . whatever I decide im going to make sure I get properly fitted for them

 

[Ethan]

theres more of a choice in grinds bounce with the vokeys which kinda sways me more towards them . whatever I decide im going to make sure I get properly fitted for them

But do you need a greater choice of grinds and bounce? Maybe the most common ones are just fine, and presumably they have been chosen for that reason. I suspect the majority of Vokeys sold are one or two grinds, and the rest are fairly small numbers.

Too much choice is a bad thing sometimes.

 

[hovis]

theres more of a choice in grinds bounce with the vokeys which kinda sways me more towards them . whatever I decide im going to make sure I get properly fitted for them

Mcdaddy have 4 different bounces and 3 different grinds as standard. You can create any combo you want with customisation to give you lots of options

 

[Simbo]

Are these the only 2 kinds you are interested in?.

Iv never tried the mac daddy but iv used vokeys, I personally didn't like them as much as the mizuno mp T4 I use now.

 

[nemicu]

But do you need a greater choice of grinds and bounce? Maybe the most common ones are just fine, and presumably they have been chosen for that reason. I suspect the majority of Vokeys sold are one or two grinds, and the rest are fairly small numbers.

Too much choice is a bad thing sometimes.

Really?
Once you consider the Vokey has more loft and finish options too (aside from more bounce and grind options and customisation), it's hard to believe why anyone would want them. Did I mention they're the most popular wedge on tour too (and not just for contracted players)?
Nope - still can't see any advantage. Maybe there's something else.

 

[CMAC]

Mack Daddy 2 TOUR..........end of thread

 

[Ethan]

Really?
Once you consider the Vokey has more loft and finish options too (aside from more bounce and grind options and customisation), it's hard to believe why anyone would want them. Did I mention they're the most popular wedge on tour too (and not just for contracted players)?
Nope - still can't see any advantage. Maybe there's something else.

Is that an attempt at sarcasm? Must do better.

Vokey wedges were the most popular on Tour when there were few retail options, so it isn't a list of retail options driving Tour use. It might have been the excellent basic design and the work done for Tour players by the Titleist tour van, and Vokey himself. For a couple of years now, the Vokey Wedgeworks offers some custom work of varying sorts to retail, so the facility has been there.

If your hypothesis, as poorly stated as it is, is correct, Tour and retail use will rocket. I bet they don't. In fact, they have been falling recently due to increased competition from other brands.

There is also adequate evidence from sales and marketing of diverse types of products from food to cars to computers, that too much choice confuses consumers. People want to know what product they are most suited to (in some cases based on an inflated self perception, but same basic point), and too many finishes, lofts, grinds and other options is confusing.

The Titleist driver and fairway lines offer dozens of shaft choices. I bet that more than 90% of sales are drawn from no more than 10 of these. The same will be true for the wedges.

 

[nemicu]

Is that an attempt at sarcasm? Must do better.

Vokey wedges were the most popular on Tour when there were few retail options, so it isn't a list of retail options driving Tour use. It might have been the excellent basic design and the work done for Tour players by the Titleist tour van, and Vokey himself. For a couple of years now, the Vokey Wedgeworks offers some custom work of varying sorts to retail, so the facility has been there.

If your hypothesis, as poorly stated as it is, is correct, Tour and retail use will rocket. I bet they don't. In fact, they have been falling recently due to increased competition from other brands.

There is also adequate evidence from sales and marketing of diverse types of products from food to cars to computers, that too much choice confuses consumers. People want to know what product they are most suited to (in some cases based on an inflated self perception, but same basic point), and too many finishes, lofts, grinds and other options is confusing.

The Titleist driver and fairway lines offer dozens of shaft choices. I bet that more than 90% of sales are drawn from no more than 10 of these. The same will be true for the wedges.

You're right. Better to have every loft between 41 degrees and 61 degrees and then have the cheek to say bounce doesn't matter and "choice" should be limited - a la Scor wedges perhaps?
I somehow doubt that a two horse race between two market leading brands is anything but academic, but you fail to show some benefit to choose one over the other by saying "choice" is bad. Maybe the OP should simply choose in alphabetical order - or god forbid, price.

 

[HomerJSimpson]

If you are looking for a fit go along and see what works best. I wouldn't rule out Cleveland either

 

[Swinger]

I just got my name stamped on a couple of Vokey SM5's. Too kool for skool me.

I've tried both and personally found the options a little more suited to me in the vokey range. I don't think you can go wrong with either as they are both very good products.

 

[pbrown7582]

Don't discount Cleveland the best IMO

 

[Foxholer]

I have to say that my 2nd reaction to the SM5s was 'too many choices!'! The 1st was 'Wow, a purdy Vokey at last!'!

And at that stage - and maybe not since either - Titleist hadn't provided any training for 'shop staff' on how to recommend which 'grinds' to which style of player, nor samples/demos for the customer to decide for him (or her)self!

The simple answer is to try a demo out and decide which works best. though you are probably not going to be able to at Kings Acre - a Titleist centre! Not sure whether same/similar applies to St Andrews (AGT?).

I think it's worthwhile finding out what suiits best for you, either by trial (and maybe error) or by a fitting, and then deciding on which, based on that info. Definitely not simply what seems to work well for another player - whether on Tour or elsewhere!

 

[malek988]

give the atv a go to if you can, i got on in the bargin bin for £20, man the spin off it is phenomenal,

 

[CMAC]

give the atv a go to if you can, i got on in the bargin bin for £20, man the spin off it is phenomenal,

anyone wants an ATV 52* PM me, its in me cupboard waiting till I do an evilbay run

 

[Ethan]

You're right. Better to have every loft between 41 degrees and 61 degrees and then have the cheek to say bounce doesn't matter and "choice" should be limited - a la Scor wedges perhaps?
I somehow doubt that a two horse race between two market leading brands is anything but academic, but you fail to show some benefit to choose one over the other by saying "choice" is bad. Maybe the OP should simply choose in alphabetical order - or god forbid, price.

Well, I assume that snarky reply is a tacit acknowledgment that you either didn't understand my point or accept you were wrong, since your only remaining argument is to attack my choice of wedges. Even though you don't understand them either. Have you heard of wedges with versatile soles - ATV in TM wedges, for example?

In most of the big stores, the choice offered is between the wedges with the largest commission or sales incentives for the staff, and sod all to do with what the punter needs.

 

[GeeTee]

Well, I assume that snarky reply is a tacit acknowledgment that you either didn't understand my point or accept you were wrong, since your only remaining argument is to attack my choice of wedges. Even though you don't understand them either. Have you heard of wedges with versatile soles - ATV in TM wedges, for example?

In most of the big stores, the choice offered is between the wedges with the largest commission or sales incentives for the staff, and sod all to do with what the punter needs.

I've had an atv wedge and didn't get on with it at all and I currently have a clevland 588rtx and an sm4 I got cheap off eBay . The Cleveland I get on ok with but the vokey is a joy to use.
One of the main reasons I chose on the titelist and callaway wedges is because both have national fitting centres not too far away from me as I'd like to be properly fitted for them .