What squares the club face?

Not deliberately your hands
But all the hips closing, the effect of lag on the backswing, a bit of centripetal force
Ultimately it's the angular momentum of the club head at a distance from your wrists

I'd say just let it happen :)
 
It's the opposite of what you do on the backswing. If you're like me & turn the shoulders with the hands fairly quiet the face is squared when the upper body & shoulders turn back towards the ball. If you're a more "handsy" player then you'll probably open the club face on the way back meaning that, on the downswing, the hands have to "turn over" to bring the face back to square. This is less reliable & requires better timing. In the teaching of Jim Hardy this is the main difference between the "One Plane" swing, with what he calls a "stable club face" and a "Two Plane" swing, where the arms stay more in front of the body & the hands & arms play a bigger part in generating clubhead speed.
 
It's a combination of things moving in the right sequence. You absolutely definitely DO NOT want to be trying to square the face by turning your hands over.
 
HawkeyeMS said:
It's a combination of things moving in the right sequence. You absolutely definitely DO NOT want to be trying to square the face by turning your hands over.
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Hawkeye, why would that be ? when I had a eureka moment ? Six months ago I WAS smashing it miles. However I have since either not turned wrists over enough and pushed it out right or turn them over to much and pull it left. Would that be the reason why ?
when I had a driver fitting at Ping last year they told me I was hitting the ball with the club face open 13 degrees, which caused everything to fade or slice. turning the wrists helped me to square the face.
 
I was having this exact conversation with a pro today. He said for some squaring the face happens naturally and others have to physically make the effort to get things moving.

My swing thought on my backswing is to close the face as much as possible and to to close it even more on the downswing. Having seen my swing on a high speed camera it crazy how in reality i dont even get close to closing the face
 
Tashyboy said:
Hawkeye, why would that be ? when I had a eureka moment ? Six months ago I WAS smashing it miles. However I have since either not turned wrists over enough and pushed it out right or turn them over to much and pull it left. Would that be the reason why ?
when I had a driver fitting at Ping last year they told me I was hitting the ball with the club face open 13 degrees, which caused everything to fade or slice. turning the wrists helped me to square the face.
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Because, IMHO, it is incredibly difficult to do consistently. When you get it right it will be great but unless you are very lucky or have hours to practice you will be very very inconsistent. Much easier to keep the club face square right through the swing (Plane Truth style) than rotate your hands one way then the other.
 
HawkeyeMS said:
Because, IMHO, it is incredibly difficult to do consistently. When you get it right it will be great but unless you are very lucky or have hours to practice you will be very very inconsistent. Much easier to keep the club face square right through the swing (Plane Truth style) than rotate your hands one way then the other.
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That explains my tight dispersion then 😳 Next visit to the driving range will be interesting.
 
If the ball is on the club face for only a few milliseconds, and you are actively trying to square the club face with your hands to get a square club face at that precise moment in time, good luck.

If the club face remains square through the swing, you have way more chance of hitting it properly.
 
HawkeyeMS said:
Because, IMHO, it is incredibly difficult to do consistently. When you get it right it will be great but unless you are very lucky or have hours to practice you will be very very inconsistent. Much easier to keep the club face square right through the swing (Plane Truth style) than rotate your hands one way then the other.
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I had an hour yesterday on a GC2 with face technology as I'm trying to hit consistently with the new Titleist driver I acquired. It appears that in trying to square the hands I pre been pulling the butt end more across my body I trying to turn the club over, and exiting low left in an effort to square the face.

My pro said that I concentrate too much on the grip and I need to be more trying to feel the club face and the swing path to square the club - I finally got the feel and was swinging 3.8 in to out, and 1.6 open to path. By trying to square the impact by thinking where the head was instead of manipulating the grip, I increased the swing speed to 97 mph and an extra 12 yards with a tighter dispersion

The result was that I played in the afternoon immediately after the lesson and the tuition transferred to my irons too and I had a higher follow through and many of my best shots for ages.
 
I asked this question as I was up practicing on some drills from a recent lesson. And I'm hitting the ball a lot better, but my bad shot seemed to be push....on further analysis at the moment of impact my hands seemed to be trailing behind and leaving the club face wide open

So messing about last night in the house with some of them foam balls and I practiced getting my right arm rolling over a bit more and that seemed to combat it....obviously I couldn't tell from hitting in the house, but it looked a lot better.

I'm down the range tonight so I'll give it a proper go.
 
One's golf swing, hopefully.

This type of question is incredibly difficult to answer because it is another one of those "feel vs real" issues. Which most things in the golf swing are.

Also, what squares the clubface is going to depend on each persons golf swing and what, if any, compensating adjustments are required to sort things out on the way down.

For me, I would say it's making sure that I have the back of my left hand (where the logo on my golf glove is) facing the target at impact.
 
snell said:
Evening all....just wondering what square the club face....is it turning your hands over? Body rotation? Or something else??
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Most of the things already mentioned, but mainly skill.

If that wasn't true, we'd all be hitting it dead straight by now with all the knowledge out there.
 
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