what is the rule if you hit the small fence that stops trolleys

[markgs]

what is the rule if you hit with your ball the small fence that stops trolleys going to close to the green to save the fringes getting mashed. Playing today there is one tee position close to the previous holes green, there is a small temp fence there stopping people passing close to the green with the trolley. A friend hit his drive along the floor and hit the fence and shoot into the rough. He then picked his ball up tee off again and said there was no penalty and he could tee off as the temp fence is not part of the course. Is this correct?

 

[chrisd]

He's had you all over mate! Of course it's part of the course, he might get relief from it for his next shot if it interferes with his swing but to cancel his shot is a right pee take!

 

[Foxholer]

what is the rule if you hit with your ball the small fence that stops trolleys going to close to the green to save the fringes getting mashed. Playing today there is one tee position close to the previous holes green, there is a small temp fence there stopping people passing close to the green with the trolley. A friend hit his drive along the floor and hit the fence and shoot into the rough. He then picked his ball up tee off again and said there was no penalty and he could tee off as the temp fence is not part of the course. Is this correct?

Almost certain that he was talking tosh! It would only be a weird Local Rule that would allow him to do so!

'Rub of the green'!

If the ball had ricocheted into the hole, I' bet he wouldn't have said the same thing.

Stroke and distance applies, so he'd have been playing his 4th shot from where his 2nd tee shot ended up - 3 off the tee.

 

[HawkeyeMS]

You've been had

 

[Colin L]

It would only be a weird Local Rule that would allow him to do so! .......

And it would be an illegal Local Rule if it did exist.

 

[Scrindle]

If he won it in the end by 2 strokes or less I think you should phone him and tell him he owes you a pint because he lost (either on points or due to cheating)!!

 

[stevelev]

We have a local rule that states if your ball strikes the fence that is around a ditch that is classed as GUR. The ball must be played again dropping it as near as possible to whre it was last played from, also if it impedes your swing you may tak e relief.

So I would check with the comittee as they will be able to accurately inform you what local rules are in place at your club, something which nearly everyone on here cant do.

 

[rulefan]

We have a local rule that states if your ball strikes the fence that is around a ditch that is classed as GUR. The ball must be played again dropping it as near as possible to whre it was last played from, also if it impedes your swing you may tak e relief.

So I would check with the comittee as they will be able to accurately inform you what local rules are in place at your club, something which nearly everyone on here cant do.

Perhaps the members there should check why their committee is using an unauthorised local rule.

 

[CMAC]

Perhaps the members there should check why their committee is using an unauthorised local rule.

many do as (I'll go out on a limb here) I believe pretty much 99.9% of golfers and committees dont know the rules or misinterpret them. myself included.

Point in question was a national 4BBB match I played at an away course, our opponent pulled his tee shot left over the brow of a hill into the rough, he couldnt find it but the local rule they had was to drop a ball on the fairway near as they thought it was lost, as that 'rough' was deemed by the committee as rough they wanted to grow so put this rule in place, he birdied that hole when he should have been 3 off the tee, both opponents were off 2 h/cap. Spoke to the pro and a committee member after who confirmed it was their local rule, informing them that they cannot change the rules of golf fell on deaf ears

 

[chrisd]

Spoke to the pro and a committee member after who confirmed it was their local rule, informing them that they cannot change the rules of golf fell on deaf ears

did the same on two occasions recently and got the same response

 

[HawkeyeMS]

did the same on two occasions recently and got the same response

There is a lot of that sort of response going on up and down the country I'm afraid.

 

[rulefan]

If it was a 'national' competition the organising authority (eg EG ?) would be responsible for the local rules on the day.
Unless it was something like the Daily M**l which has no official status and whose organisers have very little idea about golf at all.

 

[duncan mackie]

many do as (I'll go out on a limb here) I believe pretty much 99.9% of golfers and committees dont know the rules or misinterpret them. myself included.

Point in question was a national 4BBB match I played at an away course, our opponent pulled his tee shot left over the brow of a hill into the rough, he couldnt find it but the local rule they had was to drop a ball on the fairway near as they thought it was lost, as that 'rough' was deemed by the committee as rough they wanted to grow so put this rule in place, he birdied that hole when he should have been 3 off the tee, both opponents were off 2 h/cap. Spoke to the pro and a committee member after who confirmed it was their local rule, informing them that they cannot change the rules of golf fell on deaf ears

if the whole area was designated as GUR, as from your despcription it may well have been inc GUR play prohibited, then the rules permit this. Many courses have such temporary arrangements for both dune work and such areas as heather or gorse regnereration.
Correctly implemented they comply.

 

[Spuddy]

if the whole area was designated as GUR, as from your despcription it may well have been inc GUR play prohibited, then the rules permit this. Many courses have such temporary arrangements for both dune work and such areas as heather or gorse regnereration.
Correctly implemented they comply.

Indeed, if they are growing the rough then it could be deemed as under cultivation which is GUR.

 

[stevelev]

It is a while ole area deemed gur due to envirommental issues. Similar to having pylons on a course, their are locals rules available and legitimate that cover these

 

[rulefan]

if the whole area was designated as GUR, as from your despcription it may well have been inc GUR play prohibited, then the rules permit this. Many courses have such temporary arrangements for both dune work and such areas as heather or gorse regnereration.
Correctly implemented they comply.

Where do the rules permit this?

" but the local rule they had was to drop a ball on the fairway near as they thought it was lost,"

 

[Colin L]

Could just be a rather wild and optimistic interpretation of NPR from a correctly written LR?

....On the other hand, maybe not

 

[duncan mackie]

Could just be a rather wild and optimistic interpretation of NPR from a correctly written LR?

....On the other hand, maybe not

indeed - this is how I had read it. It doesn't need to be that wild and optimistic if the LR defines the area of GUR as, for example, the area to the left of the 12th fairway.

I was primarily responding to the posts that started from the premise that it couldn't be right rather than claiming it was clearly correct.