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they go to a vote on leadership and Jeza wins? That would mean the membership will have voted in a leader that the MP's aren't confident in and don't want. Then what?

Genuine question.
 
Two options as far as I can see. One, a breakaway party with the Labour PM's, the sane ones, setting up a centrist party. Unlikely option.

Two, the MP's sit tight, accept they are turkeys with Christmas on the horizon and take their medicine at the next election. Labour will take an absolute beating, Corbyn will finally resign and the remaining 80 MP's will choose a leader for the modern era.

It is a disastrous situation for Labour, one of their own making though.
 
Blair won three elections which suggests he did understand what people wanted, until Iraq obviously. The party badly ran out of steam in the third term after which we had the disaster of Brown and the wrong Milliband. There is currently, IMO, a dearth of talent in the Labour party but there are definitely some good people out there.

The party that attracts the centre ground in the UK wins elections. If you don't win elections then you can't make changes. Corbyn is taking Labour to the edge of disaster and handing the Conservatives a free ride.
 
Blair won three elections which suggests he did understand what people wanted, until Iraq obviously. The party badly ran out of steam in the third term after which we had the disaster of Brown and the wrong Milliband. There is currently, IMO, a dearth of talent in the Labour party but there are definitely some good people out there.

The party that attracts the centre ground in the UK wins elections. If you don't win elections then you can't make changes. Corbyn is taking Labour to the edge of disaster and handing the Conservatives a free ride.

I couldn't put it any better.

My voting tends to flip flop around the centre ground. Labour are too far left for me at present, which leaves me with the very awkward choice of the only credible party being... no one. But I voted Cons last time because I felt Labour are a train wreck waiting to happen. Under Milliband, a wet and weak party. Under Corbyn, a party that will throw money at every silly cause on the planet and also entertain the likes of Hamas/Hezbola.

A tough one; abstain or vote Cons to keep Corbyn and the far left out.
 
Is it not also a crime how badly the Libs are doing? Absolutely disappeared of the face of the earth. You never hear them. Coalition has absolutely trashed them at a time they should be cleaning up. We currently have a choice of a hard left Labour, an increasingly right wing Conservative, UKIP and no one else.

Someone put out a call for the correct Milliband at International Rescue. Thunderbird 2 is on standby for him.
 
The Labour rebels will leave and join their allies in the Tory party.

I appreciate that your knowledge of English politics is very limited but to suggest that many of those Labour MP's who voted no confidence in Corbyn are on the right of the party is so wrong it verges on stupid.

Whilst there are some Blairites amongst them there are just as many, if not more, from the traditional left including Angela Eagles herself.
 
I'd like to see the more centralist Labour members joining up with the Lib Dems to form a credible centralist/liberal lefty party. And my fellow yurt eating yoghurt wearers would party on into the night in their sandals. They then can start taking the votes away from the 2 other parties that are lurching further to the left or right and we can return to policies being based more on compromise and compassion instead of ever hardening political ideology.
 
I'd like to see the more centralist Labour members joining up with the Lib Dems to form a credible centralist/liberal lefty party. And my fellow yurt eating yoghurt wearers would party on into the night in their sandals. They then can start taking the votes away from the 2 other parties that are lurching further to the left or right and we can return to policies being based more on compromise and compassion instead of ever hardening political ideology.

Noooo! I can't possibly agree with a Yurt dweller!
 
I couldn't put it any better.

My voting tends to flip flop around the centre ground. Labour are too far left for me at present, which leaves me with the very awkward choice of the only credible party being... no one. But I voted Cons last time because I felt Labour are a train wreck waiting to happen. Under Milliband, a wet and weak party. Under Corbyn, a party that will throw money at every silly cause on the planet and also entertain the likes of Hamas/Hezbola.

A tough one; abstain or vote Cons to keep Corbyn and the far left out.

Brian it's probably a waste of time voting Tory in your present location.
 
The worst thing about the state labour is in is that it has allowed the tories to move to the right without fear of electoral defeat. We need a credible opposition soon before the tories start unwinding what equality, human rights and employment protection we already have.
 
I'd like to see the more centralist Labour members joining up with the Lib Dems to form a credible centralist/liberal lefty party. And my fellow yurt eating yoghurt wearers would party on into the night in their sandals. They then can start taking the votes away from the 2 other parties that are lurching further to the left or right and we can return to policies being based more on compromise and compassion instead of ever hardening political ideology.

That would do me fine
 
In a small way yes. The SDP formed in the 80's but Kinnock stayed behind and re-claimed the party. For all the abuse he takes he did a very good job back then.
 
Blair won three elections which suggests he did understand what people wanted, .


I'll agree Tone knew how to win elections... It was just his delivery thereafter that always came up short...


As for another go at a 'centrist' party... Thought the vote, the other week, was 'the great unwashed' saying they've had enough of that for a while... This was a vote not saddled by the confusion of what colour rosette a candidate may or may not be wearing... It was a straightforward yes or no... Perhaps we could have a few more of this type...
 
MS - You can only hope that the politicians learn something from it.

Now that Eagle has come forward will anyone else? Surely she can't be the best that there is to offer. Is she just the sacrificial lamb to get rid of Corbyn and the big hitters will join the race shortly? She may be the Heseltine in all this.
 
Whats all this talk of the Conservatives Lurching to the Right :confused: Cameron was anything but far right he is hardly Right at all, he would have sat well in the Blair Government, the rest of his Cabinet are almost indistinguishable from Lib Dems with their renewable energy and international aid programmes.
 
I'd like to see the more centralist Labour members joining up with the Lib Dems to form a credible centralist/liberal lefty party. And my fellow yurt eating yoghurt wearers would party on into the night in their sandals. They then can start taking the votes away from the 2 other parties that are lurching further to the left or right and we can return to policies being based more on compromise and compassion instead of ever hardening political ideology.

Good idea, but what on earth would you call them.
May I suggest The Social Democratic Centralist Liberal Not Lefties Or Kippers Party. SDCLNLOKP.
 
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