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So this weekend its the Monaco GP and the PGA championship both of which used to be covered live by the BBC,isnt it fun paying your TV licence to fund the huge wage packets to useless presenters :rolleyes:.
 
So this weekend its the Monaco GP and the PGA championship both of which used to be covered live by the BBC,isnt it fun paying your TV licence to fund the huge wage packets to useless presenters :rolleyes:.

Look - stop complaining buddy - you've got The Voice and how could they afford that otherwise - besides isn't TV just sport? (note the cunning ambiguity there :))
 
Unfortunately, sport isn't what the core demographic want these days... Auntie would rather keep it's cash to pay for some god-awful antiques / gardening / house renovation / holiday / Chelsea flower show / cockney soap opera / quiz show instead.
 
Yeah god bless Sky for paying so much to show these sports events we cant get them on free to air TV. :mad:

Thing is much of the sport that I watch was not on free to air before Sky. The BBC, as they pretty much are now, were only really interested in international rugby. The club game was relegated to an hour of rugby special on a Sunday night. The BBC is more than happy to show the crown jewels of any sport but when it comes to showing an interest in the week in week out matches there just is not the interest. The BBC had ditched Grandstand and ITV has got rid of World of Sport long before Sky became the behemouth that it is now. Even now, if the BBC had any desire to show a sporting program then there is plenty to pick up. Plenty to lower league sport or second tier tournaments could be on TV on a Saturday afternoon but the BBC has no interest in that. It wants to pick and choose the best bits whilst hiding behind the protected events list. Then you have 5 Live where you could have the biggest World event in any other sport and it would still be bumped for a game of Third Division football because wo betide there be a minute of weekend radio coverage that is not devoted to football. Sorry, the BBC had its chance to built a strong position, wasted it by expecting everything to be handed to it on a plate and now is suffering as a result. Fair play to Sky, without it I would not see hald as much sport and hardly any of the sport I want to watch.
 
I tell a lie one hours early evening highlights of the PGA Saturday and Sunday on BBC2,oh and while your at it you can catch the Monaco GP "highlights" on Sunday on BBC1!! :rolleyes:
 
MotoGP disappearing from the Beeb next year...

Good! They should never have had it since they couldn't be bothered to cover it properly; relegating it to the red button, starting coverage mere seconds before the start, ending before the podium etc. I hope Eurosport are getting it back - they knew what it was all about!
 
If Sky didn't insist on bidding for sole broadcasting rights then there would be an option to choose your broadcaster of choice. Those who think Sky is great could pay through the nose to watch that and the rest could watch the BBC.

But then, of course, Sky wouldn't have the monopoly that forces those who can afford it to pay the ridiculous prices they charge, but then I suppose the Premier League footballers deserve all this money.

I seem to remember in the early days of Sky how Murdoch used to complain about the monopoly that the BBC had.
 
I'm thinking of moving from Sky Sports to BT Vision. Big event or series of matches I want to watch on Sky Sports coming up I'll take Sky Sports 1 and 2 for £20 for the month.
 
Good! They should never have had it since they couldn't be bothered to cover it properly; relegating it to the red button, starting coverage mere seconds before the start, ending before the podium etc. I hope Eurosport are getting it back - they knew what it was all about!

Nope... Going to BT... So if you wish to watch it you'll need to be a subsciber to their broadband service or shell out to subscribe to their satellite service...
 
If Sky didn't insist on bidding for sole broadcasting rights then there would be an option to choose your broadcaster of choice. Those who think Sky is great could pay through the nose to watch that and the rest could watch the BBC.

But then, of course, Sky wouldn't have the monopoly that forces those who can afford it to pay the ridiculous prices they charge, but then I suppose the Premier League footballers deserve all this money.

I seem to remember in the early days of Sky how Murdoch used to complain about the monopoly that the BBC had.

Not sure where you get your "facts" from but Sky have never bid for sole broadcasting rights. The packages are tendered as exactly that, packages. It's then up to the highest bidder to determine who gets what. Sky just outbid the other contenders, as happens in nearly every other tender process in business.
Flip side, do you really think that Golf, Darts, Snooker, heck even Rugby League, would have built in to the popular sports that they are currently (with the money that goes with the prizes, attracting the best players) if it had been left to BBC and other FTA providers?
Some people just talk rot for the sake of hating Rupert because that's what the rest of society tell them to do.
Like it or not, he is just a successful businessman. I sometimes struggle to understand the hatred for KRM yet the adulation for Lord AMS... Its bonkers as they are both as bad as each oth.... Oh wait, one's English and the other isn't even from around here...
 
The BBC is a publicly funded organisation that essentially can no longer can afford to bid for many sporting rights as the market rate has been raised so high by Sky and other commercial organisations.

To be honest I think the BBC is mostly great, and the radio output is superb. And the more you travel around the world then the better it becomes. But the trouble is that it is trying to be all things to all men and meet the (sometimes quite niche) needs of everyone. Plus as in all companies nowadays, the bean counters have taken over and the creative people have less influence. And this is felt more acutely in an organisation like the BBC as it needs creative people to make the content.

You can't really blame it for losing out on a lot of golf, football or cricket as it is just outbid and it does not have the funds to compete.
 
Flip side, do you really think that Golf, Darts, Snooker, heck even Rugby League, would have built in to the popular sports that they are currently (with the money that goes with the prizes, attracting the best players) if it had been left to BBC and other FTA providers?

Depends on how you measure popularity, How many watched Taylor beat Davis when it was on the BBC compared to how many watch snooker on Sky (is it even on Sky??). Snooker is no where near as popular now than it was in the 80s with the general public. How many watch the open golf on the BBC compared with the masters or even the Ryder Cup on Sky? Absolutely no argument that there is more money in the sports, but does that equal popularity and interest from the general public?

I will say one thing in that had the Ryder Cup been televised on the BBC then I bet it would have encouraged a lot more people to give golf a try than it did by being screened on Sky.
 
Depends on how you measure popularity, How many watched Taylor beat Davis when it was on the BBC compared to how many watch snooker on Sky (is it even on Sky??). Snooker is no where near as popular now than it was in the 80s with the general public. How many watch the open golf on the BBC compared with the masters or even the Ryder Cup on Sky? Absolutely no argument that there is more money in the sports, but does that equal popularity and interest from the general public?

I will say one thing in that had the Ryder Cup been televised on the BBC then I bet it would have encouraged a lot more people to give golf a try than it did by being screened on Sky.

I mean in terms of participation. Also global appeal. In the 80's there were no players form the far east, a handful from outside of the UK/ROI in fact.
Snooker is, indeed, on Sky with Premier League which gets good attendances at the events, as do the Premier League Darts events (selling out much bigger venues than the Circus Tavern and the Winter Gardens in the process).

How would you prove that theory? Was there higher take-up of Golf when FTA services DID have coverage? Does the BBC's Open coverage increase the uptake in the game?
 
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