WANTED: Hard to hit blade!

Craggles89

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I am planning on doing some range work over the winter and thought it would help me focus on strike with my own irons if I had a harder to hit blade to practise with.

I’m looking for a preferably a shorter iron, and as it’s an experiment, something as cheap as possible that they are willing to part with.

Would love to play with a Titleist MB but thats just me typing my thoughts and my limited knowledge of blades, as thats the only one I really know of.

So, what do you have?

Thanks Guys!
 
your best bet would be to look on ebay mate, purely because people often sell demo versions of a club fairly cheap.

It would most likely be a 6iron.
 
Be careful!

You could do what I did and 'fall in love' with blades!

There are a couple of Titleist blade 6 irons (ZM or 695MB) on Ebay for reasonable money.
 
patricks148 said:
Hardest club to hit ive found is an MP37... sweet spot is very small.

here's one on ebay
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Mizuno-MP...200530?hash=item1c7366ca12:g:nkEAAOSw44BYDKXR

sure to deaden the fingers on a cold day;)
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This looks a good shout at £30!

Worryingly, I am after that feeling. I haven't really experienced the pain of mis-hiting one or even the joy of flushing one, as everyone speaks of, so thought I would pick up a cheap one to have a play around with
 
I can sort of see the benefits of this . instant feedback and no faffing around with tape etc. anything but out the middle with most blades you know instantly. only downside is losing the use of a couple of fingers when you thin one on a cold day;)
 
Not sure about this.

By the nature of their design, blades have their sweetspot nearer the hozel and higher on the face than more GI designs. That's what that exciting tungsten weighting that ping etc chuck about is for - to move the cg to a more central and lower position

All you'd be practicing (assuming you'd be switching to a friendlier set in the season) would be a heely miss.
 
pendodave said:
Not sure about this.

By the nature of their design, blades have their sweetspot nearer the hozel and higher on the face than more GI designs. That's what that exciting tungsten weighting that ping etc chuck about is for - to move the cg to a more central and lower position

All you'd be practicing (assuming you'd be switching to a friendlier set in the season) would be a heely miss.
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Wasn't aware of this. So you don't think it will help?

It's not so much me using the blade to help with my irons, just highlighting a weak area of my game and going to be working hard at the range, thought taking a blade would be interesting and would maybe make me get a little bit more accurate with all irons.
 
I have a blade 6 iron. It's flippin' gorgeous.
Bought it for fiver out of the demo bin. Titleist.
I also push it (get the wrong impression of where the face is as I play with offset GI irons).
So, as much to lose as to gain.
It's not going to make you better. It's just going to be fun, it you like that sort of thing.
It's not for sale either... but I lend it out now and again.

I played with Mizuno TPs in 1996. That didn't make me better either.

Maybe you are already rather good at golf? It's hardly a gamble if you wait for a cheap one.

I say give it a try. :)
 
Craggles89 said:
Wasn't aware of this. So you don't think it will help?

It's not so much me using the blade to help with my irons, just highlighting a weak area of my game and going to be working hard at the range, thought taking a blade would be interesting and would maybe make me get a little bit more accurate with all irons.
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If you wander through some of the more technically inclined golfing sites, there's quite a few opinions on the subject. There's a resource online which documents the horizontal and vertical centre of gravity for most past and present iron heads. MPF Head Ratings - Ralph Maltby
http://ralphmaltby.com/mpf-head-ratings/

So, for example, an ap1 has the cog 1.441 cm from the hozel, whereas the 714 mb has it 1.087. So that's half a cm different.

Vertical cog is also important, if it's lower than the middle of a golf ball then it will launch high with low spin. If it's above it will launch low and spin more. Modern gi clubs get their turbo distances by putting cg right down which maximises distance but makes it tough to hold greens.

I wouldn't go as far as saying its a fascinating topic, but it's not without interest. It can explain why some people like some irons, while others don't. The particular characteristics of your swing (aoa etc) may suit the cg being in a particular place.
 
pendodave said:
If you wander through some of the more technically inclined golfing sites, there's quite a few opinions on the subject. There's a resource online which documents the horizontal and vertical centre of gravity for most past and present iron heads. MPF Head Ratings - Ralph Maltby
http://ralphmaltby.com/mpf-head-ratings/

So, for example, an ap1 has the cog 1.441 cm from the hozel, whereas the 714 mb has it 1.087. So that's half a cm different.

Vertical cog is also important, if it's lower than the middle of a golf ball then it will launch high with low spin. If it's above it will launch low and spin more. Modern gi clubs get their turbo distances by putting cg right down which maximises distance but makes it tough to hold greens.

I wouldn't go as far as saying its a fascinating topic, but it's not without interest. It can explain why some people like some irons, while others don't. The particular characteristics of your swing (aoa etc) may suit the cg being in a particular place.
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Good to know that all these years thinking i was almost hitting shermans... when in fact i was middling it:cool:
 
pendodave said:
I wouldn't go as far as saying its a fascinating topic, but it's not without interest. It can explain why some people like some irons, while others don't. The particular characteristics of your swing (aoa etc) may suit the cg being in a particular place.
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Ralph is still at it! Awesome.
I used to follow the MPFs. I even bought a set based on the highest number I could find.
 
Yep. mpf is still out there.

There is (justified) criticism about the value of the calculated 'forgiveness' value, but the individual measurements are simple facts and therefore objective.

Some recent technological changes such as variable face thicknesses and thin springy faces are not really accounted for and probably should be.

Still, in an era of OEM marketing madness, and the lack of independent information in the public domain, we should be thankful for what we can get our hands on.

Perhaps we should have the thread renamed and moved into the main section? There might be a few with experiences/opinions on this who wouldn't visit an I want to buy a 1 iron thread (sorry OP!)
 
pendodave said:
Yep. mpf is still out there.

There is (justified) criticism about the value of the calculated 'forgiveness' value, but the individual measurements are simple facts and therefore objective.

Some recent technological changes such as variable face thicknesses and thin springy faces are not really accounted for and probably should be.

Still, in an era of OEM marketing madness, and the lack of independent information in the public domain, we should be thankful for what we can get our hands on.

Perhaps we should have the thread renamed and moved into the main section? There might be a few with experiences/opinions on this who wouldn't visit an I want to buy a 1 iron thread (sorry OP!)
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Pendo, feel free to start a thread by all means, I was just after a cheap hard to hit club for a bit of fun, this has got a bit deep :confused:
 
Craggles89 said:
Pendo, feel free to start a thread by all means, I was just after a cheap hard to hit club for a bit of fun, this has got a bit deep :confused:
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I think Pendo's reply might have been to humour me, which I appreciate.
Like I said, give it a whirl Craggles. I shall be taking my 6 iron to the practice ground today as it happens.
It's nice to feel those off-center hits on a cold winters day. :p
 
RGDave said:
I think Pendo's reply might have been to humour me, which I appreciate.
Like I said, give it a whirl Craggles. I shall be taking my 6 iron to the practice ground today as it happens.
It's nice to feel those off-center hits on a cold winters day. :p
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Yes

Nothing nicer than thining a callaway HEX warbird with a bladed 4 iron on a brisk January morning..

Feels like you have been manning pneumatic drill for the last 40 years
 
tugglesf239 said:
Yes

Nothing nicer than thining a callaway HEX warbird with a bladed 4 iron on a brisk January morning..

Feels like you have been manning pneumatic drill for the last 40 years
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Nice. :) LOL

I hit a few with it today... pretty good. Woefully short, but I blame the shaft.

(A bad workman and all that...)
 
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