VW Emission lawsuit

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What are people being compensated for? Ok, so the emissions are not as stated, but it hasnt cost more to run, or tax, your car still works, and i have not noticed a massive plunge in 2nd hand values?
 
murphthemog said:
What are people being compensated for? Ok, so the emissions are not as stated, but it hasnt cost more to run, or tax, your car still works, and i have not noticed a massive plunge in 2nd hand values?
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But it has, the mpg which was stated as X is actually Y which is lower. Hence costing more to run.
 
Tashyboy said:
But it has, the mpg which was stated as X is actually Y which is lower. Hence costing more to run.
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very hard to prove mpg tho Tash , mileage on the motorway at consistent speed varies alot from normal road in traffic ,
we were discussing this in work (i work in vw dealership) its a much different case to the USA , the modification will be carried out & vehicle will be within limits & the claim performance or fuel economy wont be effected
 
Nobodies MPG matches the figures given. In reality neither do the emissions figures in real world driving, I believe they work out around 2 x the given figure. They are all lab driven and so nonsense in the real world. I'm not sure I see VW owners being out of pocket so far as the govt has not re-classified their cars with the new emissions figures. If they did that then there certainly would be a case.
 
The lawsuit talks about impact on
1) Health (because of higher emission)
2) Environment (because of higher emission)
3) Financials.
Beyond the MPG, I guess people (incl moi) bought into the idea that it was a cleaner car than peers and so paid a premium. We could have bought a Jag/Merc/Beamer but the Adui was a very good car for it credentials.

Also, isnt the EU pulling up the UK Govt for not acting sooner against VW. I am sure VW might be wishing that Brexit happen sooner so they dont get fined too :) I dont know all the facts of the case, but I am told the difference between the US & UK was that in the US they had to declare the NOx outputs which they underdeclared but in the UK they dont have to declare NOx. So while it is not really safer, it might still be legal.
 
I get it if the uk gov fine them, but cannot see why the owners should be compensated. Do the emissions emit straight into the car? Why is the owner more at risk of health damage than a pedestrian, or the driver of the car behind?
 
murphthemog said:
I get it if the uk gov fine them, but cannot see why the owners should be compensated. Do the emissions emit straight into the car? Why is the owner more at risk of health damage than a pedestrian, or the driver of the car behind?
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So if the UK gov fine them, who does the money go to? Government coffers. Why should they get summat when they didn't buy the cars that were supposed to be giving lower emissions.

on a positive note I have checked on the SEAT site and my cars emissions are as stated so I am not pumping out more toxic emissions than I thought. 😁
 
murphthemog said:
I get it if the uk gov fine them, but cannot see why the owners should be compensated. Do the emissions emit straight into the car? Why is the owner more at risk of health damage than a pedestrian, or the driver of the car behind?
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because the culture these days of 'where there's blame' everyone wants something for nothing.
 
So if you buy a car due to the stated lower emissions and these figures turn out to be not just inaccurate but a pre conceived lie, have you have not been wronged?
 
How many people genuinely buy a car based on emissions though. Not tax bracket, but actual numbers? Not many i would guess. How many would make a claim? Pretty much every one.

If people were that worried about emissions, they would not have bought a 2 litre diesel in the first place. There are cleaner alternatives available.

And as previously stated, are fuel consumption figures not the bigger fraud, and yet we accept this as ok?
 
Tashyboy said:
So if the UK gov fine them, who does the money go to? Government coffers. Why should they get summat when they didn't buy the cars that were supposed to be giving lower emissions.
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Why not the government. They are the ones who have to pay the fines to the EU when the clean air standards are not met.
 
Surely if the mpg is greater than stated(and we all know it always is) so will the CO2 output also be greater than stated, so you should be paying more car tax from the word go.
I don't believe people by a car"because it's more eviromentally friendly" than another make or model, you buy one that fits your budget and needs and perhaps how much car tax you might pay.

VW have screwed up big time, and given a royal pay day to the blame culture litigates, but they have severely put back the argument for diesel fuelled cars a long way. It wasn't long ago the world was concerned about the levels of CO2 in the atmosphere and its effect and implications. For that reasons diesel cars were pushed.
 
murphthemog said:
Why not the government. They are the ones who have to pay the fines to the EU when the clean air standards are not met.
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Knowing this slopey shoulderd lot we have in, they may well say fine VW, coz we would be under if there cars did what they said.
 
Had been sent a link on it to sign up, states it's a no win no fee case, but reading all the other stuff, makes no mention of the NWNF, but does mention in several places about payment of legal fee's should the case not succeed... I'm a little confused and suspicious TBH
 
patricks148 said:
Had been sent a link on it to sign up, states it's a no win no fee case, but reading all the other stuff, makes no mention of the NWNF, but does mention in several places about payment of legal fee's should the case not succeed... I'm a little confused and suspicious TBH
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Don't forget that there is nothing in life that's free
 
patricks148 said:
Had been sent a link on it to sign up, states it's a no win no fee case, but reading all the other stuff, makes no mention of the NWNF, but does mention in several places about payment of legal fee's should the case not succeed... I'm a little confused and suspicious TBH
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From the FAQ on Sinclair website..
Source: http://www.vwemissionsaction.com/faqs-for-the-vw-emissions-action-legal-claim

11. What will it cost me?

The litigation will be funded by a third party litigation funder. Accordingly, there will be no cost to you for joining or participating in the group action.

If we lose the claim, the funder will lose all of its investment. To offset its risk, the litigation funder will take a fee from the compensation awarded if we are successful. You should however still receive 70% of your proportionate share of compensation. If we lose the claim, we will not charge you for our time or the costs we have incurred on your behalf. The funder will simply lose its investment.



40. What are my risks?

Any claimants involved in a Court case could be ordered to pay the defendants’ legal costs if they lose. This is a characteristic of the Court system in England and Wales. In order to protect claimants from that risk, we have obtained an indemnity from the Third Party Funder (who will in turn obtain insurance). If the case is lost, it will be the Third Party Funder or their insurers who will pay the other side’s costs up to the level of the amount insured.

It is our duty to minimise the risk to you as far as possible, and the funder’s indemnity and Insurance should mean that the risk will be negligible.

Other risks are referred to in the Claim Summary document, which we have prepared and which is available to prospective claimants during the registration process.
 
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It's never a surprise when people try and claim compensation when their lives aren't really affected - it's a symptom of modern society , people always looking to gain for little cost to themselves , only have to look at what happens when a freebie from GM happens

Why exactly should the common man who bought a VW be compensated because of the emissions being stated as wrong in a VW ? I see no reason but people we see it as a way to gain something out of nothing
 
Liverpoolphil said:
It's never a surprise when people try and claim compensation when their lives aren't really affected - it's a symptom of modern society , people always looking to gain for little cost to themselves , only have to look at what happens when a freebie from GM happens

Why exactly should the common man who bought a VW be compensated because of the emissions being stated as wrong in a VW ? I see no reason but people we see it as a way to gain something out of nothing
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My view as well Phil. Same as some claiming PPI was mis-sold to them.
 
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