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Looking at replacing my 10 year old raw wedges with some spin milled 5 versions, but confused by grind and bounce option. Looking at 50,54,58 lofts to close gap to PW, plus I currently only use 60 deg for bunkers and feel I am missing out on 60-80 yard full shots with the 4th wedge

Any help on what bounce grind/options would be best as I dont find the titleist website that helpful. Not sure if I am a slider/neutral or digger, how would I know?
 
Loz1607 said:
Looking at replacing my 10 year old raw wedges with some spin milled 5 versions, but confused by grind and bounce option. Looking at 50,54,58 lofts to close gap to PW, plus I currently only use 60 deg for bunkers and feel I am missing out on 60-80 yard full shots with the 4th wedge

Any help on what bounce grind/options would be best as I dont find the titleist website that helpful. Not sure if I am a slider/neutral or digger, how would I know?
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you're not the only one confused by grinds:rolleyes:

imo you dont need 4 wedges, PW gap and SW depending on your set...MAX. There isnt a shot you cannot do with 3 wedges. I have no idea, nor have I ever known, what grinds or bounce are on my wedges (only PW and SW), nor do I care, imo it wont made a blind bit of difference to you.

The 'wedge' crowd will be along in a minute bestowing the special grinds they have on their 5 wedges- cause the pro's do - but really, you will fat/thin anything if the swings not right
 
CMAC said:
you're not the only one confused by grinds:rolleyes:

imo you dont need 4 wedges, PW gap and SW depending on your set...MAX. There isnt a shot you cannot do with 3 wedges. I have no idea, nor have I ever known, what grinds or bounce are on my wedges (only PW and SW), nor do I care, imo it wont made a blind bit of difference to you.

The 'wedge' crowd will be along in a minute bestowing the special grinds they have on their 5 wedges- cause the pro's do - but really, you will fat/thin anything if the swings not right
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You really do tend to make some sweeping statements....
 
Alex1975 said:
You really do tend to make some sweeping statements....
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care to expand?

you're not the only one confused by grinds, yup def a fact.
hit any shot with 3 wedges- pretty sure thats a fact
I dont know my 'grinds', yep another fact.
you will fat/thin anything if the swings not right, pretty comfortable with that also.
you dont need 4 wedges imo, def a fact


look forward to your reply
 
Theory is a higher bounce works better for most out of bunkers.
I have 3 vokeys at 50/8, 54/14 and 58/9 and as said above I can fat and thin them all just don't like a pronounced leading edge
 
CMAC said:
so 3 wedges isnt enough......:rolleyes:

Alex you used to be normal around here, replies with one word implying sh1te is beneath you
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Thats another sweeping and un factual comment....

I totally was not meaning to be unpleasant but to state that 3 wedges is "MAX" is pretty random.... there is no max or min or anything in golf. Things like this are all so subjective....
 
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I dont class the pitching wedge as and additional wedge, so technically its only 3, but 4 to the purist.

Thanks for the sensible replies so far, I appreciate that some people believe that you can make any shot with just 3 wedges, but I like the extra 'lob' wedge for bunkers and flop type shots. Also I have enough length at the other end of the bag with 4 iron, 3 hybrid, 3 wood driver and do benefit from the extra wedge.

The question isnt how many wedges, but understanding the bounce, grind options!! I would probably describe my swing as a digger taking good divots and play on a heathland course which is generally in good condition with watered fairways.
 
throwing my oar in, probably where it isn't wanted, but I would tend to agree that a PW, Gap Wedge and then a SW is plenty, unless you are some sort of Phil Mickelson genius that invents shots with a 64* wedge. 3 wedges are plenty.

Regarding the OP, this page is quite good at explaining what bounce is http://www.golfbidder.co.uk/golf-advice/520/golf-club-bounce-angle-buyers-guide.html. The grind is a mixture of personal preference as well as being right for your swing type, whether you are a digger or a sweeper etc
 
Why not look at it in more simple terms.

Do you like to hit full shots into greens with your wedges. If so, pick 4 wedges.

Do you prefer to be more creative with your short game (Opening club face, quarter, half and full shots, knockdown shot etc)? If so, get 3


I would also consider the top end of your bag. Do you have any distance gaps that require filling?

I personally have 3 and I'm more than happy with that amount.
 
I ended up with 52° in F grind and 56°&60° in M grind. Tried all sorts of combo and grinds while at Kings Acre and for the type of shots I want to play with my wedges this gave the flight and stop I wanted. Really Graeme picked those one first to try out the 2nd guy was getting fitted.
 
Alex1975 said:
Thats another sweeping and un factual comment....

I totally was not meaning to be unpleasant but to state that 3 wedges is "MAX" is pretty random.... there is no max or min or anything in golf. Things like this are all so subjective....
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which one
 
Decide what max loft you are going to use and work back from that.
I'd suggest 4 degrees gap is good at the top end of your bag, better to have closer gaping at the top end IMO.
If your set wedge is say 46 (old 9iron) then I'd say you'd be good with a 50 , 54 and 58.
Sure you could get away with a 46 and a 56,but what clubs will you carry if you short change on the top end of the bag ?

Just realised I didn't answer your q, do you take large divots , or wee sclafs? Larger divots would suggest you are a digger and may be better with more bounce .
What type of course do you play , hard links or softish parkland ? Hard links may be better with less bounce , soft parkland with more.
 
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In the old days of a 50 degree PW, then one more wedge was enough for most, usually a 56 SW. Now with 46 being the norm for PW, that is basically an old 9 iron, so the PW, GW and SW has become the norm. I am not so sure about the lob wedge/60 degree wedge. Although it is useful for some shots, I think it encourages the average player to take on shots they don't have the skill for, and results in knifing the ball across greens or flopping it 3 feet in front of you. i plead guilty to both of the above.
 
I find this an interest topic, I decided I need more wedges than my PW and SW so I bought 52 and 56 Vokeys. I use the 56 a lot but the 52 rarely leaves my bag.
 
louise_a said:
I find this an interest topic, I decided I need more wedges than my PW and SW so I bought 52 and 56 Vokeys. I use the 56 a lot but the 52 rarely leaves my bag.
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What's the difference in your SW to the 56°? Most sets the stock SW is 56° anyway.

This grind business is a bit confusing but bounce I get as even in "blind test" of several wedges of various make, model and bounce (all 56° loft) I could not hit the high bounce ones across the board.
Its personal preference and every player, thier feel for the game and their preferences are as individual as the swings we put in to the game.
I have 48° as a new addition just to trial gapping but not seeing any value in it, so reverting to PW, GW and SW in old money.

Anything above a 56° is, in my opinion, a waste of a space in the bag as the 56 can be opened up. Lower biunce you start with the lower it will be when opened up.

All opinion based of course.
 
Ignoring bounce is downright silly. What it does is make the margin for error quite a bit bigger. Using a low bounce wedge you MUST make perfect contact every single time.

If you use the bounce correctly, you can slide the club into the ball. The club does not bounce, it slides.
 
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