virtuocity
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This 'campaign' must have been approved throughout the police hierarchy and just goes to show how misunderstood crimes are in this country. What are your thoughts?
Victim blaming
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JustOne
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With those two I'd be happy just watching.
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But surely, until the day comes when there are no sexual attackers left on our streets a word of warning to the potential victims is advisable.
This is not to defend or condone any perpetrator of such hideous offences or to suggest in any way the "She was asking for trouble" defence but merely faces up to the realities.
Women, both young and old, and, indeed, men should be able to walk the streets in safety but sadly we all know this is sometimes not the case. In the meantime we should not condemn the police for offering cautionary advice.
This is not to defend or condone any perpetrator of such hideous offences or to suggest in any way the "She was asking for trouble" defence but merely faces up to the realities.
Women, both young and old, and, indeed, men should be able to walk the streets in safety but sadly we all know this is sometimes not the case. In the meantime we should not condemn the police for offering cautionary advice.
ManinBlack
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I think what you're saying is a bit daft. The fact is that assaults often happen to people who put themselves in a vulnerable position. It is in no way whatsoever blaming the victim. It's more or less the advice we gave to our two girls when they were growing up.
agreed, theres only one person misunderstanding the advert
virtuocity
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virtuocity
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What people don't grasp is that:
1. Woman attacked whilst walking down high street
2. Woman attacked whilst walking down dark alley
3. Woman attacked whilst walking down dark alley wearing short skirt
...are all seen as very, very different things and campaigns are designed, pretty much to say, "Hey, potential victims! Make sure you don't walk down dark places by yourself, particularly wearing little clothing". And heaven forbid this advice isn't heeded. The masses will be quick to tut and say, "well, she shouldn't have been down there, dressed like that..... not that it's her fault.... but, you know.....".
If you can relate to that, then you have to understand that our culture is drenched in victim blaming. If you can at least appreciate that, then you must consider the impact that victim blaming has on crimes committed and how they are handled.
I look forward to Surrey police's next poster that states:
"Many sexual assaults could be prevented. Stick together, don't let your friend go off on his own as he may rape someone".
Once you've stopped scoffing and shaking your head at that, try to remain open minded and consider the message that is being sent out by the police.
1. Woman attacked whilst walking down high street
2. Woman attacked whilst walking down dark alley
3. Woman attacked whilst walking down dark alley wearing short skirt
...are all seen as very, very different things and campaigns are designed, pretty much to say, "Hey, potential victims! Make sure you don't walk down dark places by yourself, particularly wearing little clothing". And heaven forbid this advice isn't heeded. The masses will be quick to tut and say, "well, she shouldn't have been down there, dressed like that..... not that it's her fault.... but, you know.....".
If you can relate to that, then you have to understand that our culture is drenched in victim blaming. If you can at least appreciate that, then you must consider the impact that victim blaming has on crimes committed and how they are handled.
I look forward to Surrey police's next poster that states:
"Many sexual assaults could be prevented. Stick together, don't let your friend go off on his own as he may rape someone".
Once you've stopped scoffing and shaking your head at that, try to remain open minded and consider the message that is being sent out by the police.
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ManinBlack
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It's a bit like anyone standing in front and to the right of me when I've got a wedge in my hand. They know the risk, but if I hit them it's clearly my fault. However, they know the risk and still put themselves in a vulnerable position. You have to take some responsibility for your own safety.
ManinBlack
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Now you're really talking crap. I shall make no further comment.
virtuocity
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Explain...
Basically anything that helps raise awareness of the potential dangers has to be a good thing. Whether this particular poster does that effectively is debatable though in my opinion
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Jabba
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This.
jp5
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The crimes in question are heinous, but to me all that poster says is take care - keep an eye out for each other as you are safer in numbers.
I think you are looking for offence where there is none.
Pin-seeker
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This 'campaign' must have been approved throughout the police hierarchy and just goes to show how misunderstood crimes are in this country. What are your thoughts?
Both of them. My eldest sister was the one left to go home alone. and didn't make it home safely.
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I'm confused at what is the issue ?
The message seems clear and is a valid message
The message seems clear and is a valid message
ScienceBoy
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Its right to tackle the issue from both ends.
Yes go to the issue and cure but this will take time to feed through, it is right we must educate sexual crime out of our society.
This will go to help stop opportunists and reducing instances of crime. Together education of both potential victims and potential perpetrators should eventually have a significant effect. I would say this could also go a way to help stop people getting caught up in sexual crime from both ends if due to one bad decision at the worst possible time. Non-opportunists are another story of course and need a different approach.
Yes go to the issue and cure but this will take time to feed through, it is right we must educate sexual crime out of our society.
This will go to help stop opportunists and reducing instances of crime. Together education of both potential victims and potential perpetrators should eventually have a significant effect. I would say this could also go a way to help stop people getting caught up in sexual crime from both ends if due to one bad decision at the worst possible time. Non-opportunists are another story of course and need a different approach.
