Upstairs pool room.......

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Been talking to la-lucha about pool rooms upstairs on a different thread and it didn't really occur to me that it might be a snag. Not in the building trade so just thought a floor was a floor. Although the builders knew what was going up there it never occurred to me to question the specific load bearing of the floor, just kind of trusted them.

Having spoken to the company who made the table they said although it's a slate bed table it is only a 2cm deep slate and the table weighs in at 230kgs. They said that this is important as one of their traditional slate bed snooker tables is over 1200kgs.

My upstairs was built as a room from the off and the truss company actually modified the architect's design for the trusses, I have no idea if it was because I said I was putting a pool table up there or just belt and braces on their part but the bottom section of the truss was widened I think and extra bracing between the trusses was added. This is a pic of the trusses prior to going in:

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I mentioned on the other thread that they put in extra trusses and thought this was to support the pool table, had no idea it was standard practice next to velux windows :) I thought it was because of the pool table as my to scale plans I gave them of how I wanted the room laid out had the table on them and the legs of the pool table are over the double trusses:

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Cant see it from the way the cupboard is attached but the double truss is right in line here too:

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So anyway, no didn't occur to me to check and I'm guessing that I just got lucky that the table sits on the double trusses. Don't know how to describe it but the trusses are actually attached together with extra bracing below the floor as well (blocks of wood between 2 trusses, then offset between the next 2, then back in line with the first block between the next 2 trusses and so on). Perhaps this is standard as well?

Anyway, question for la_lucha if that's ok - 230 kgs table sitting on those double trusses braced to the trusses either side of them. Any chance of a snag or am I OK?
 
230kg is fine mate. We allow for a 230kg hot water tank spread over three trusses using a platform. Essentially you have 115kg on one truss and 115kg on the other. As these fall upon the doubles I am more than happy to say that would be fine.

I can't believe you managed to get such a nice looking table that weighs so little. I'd have thought it'd be getting on for something nearer to half the weight of the Snooker table than a quarter.

The aforementioned label looks to be top right attached to one of the plates. I don't think you'll be able to access them unless you have a loft hatch?

I wouldn't worry anyway mate, that table is so light a solid Oak dining table probably weighs more.
 
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230kg is fine mate. We allow for a 230kg hot water tank spread over three trusses using a platform. Essentially you have 115kg on one truss and 115kg on the other. As these fall upon the doubles I am more than happy to say that would be fine.

I can't believe you managed to get such a nice looking table that weighs so little. I'd have thought it'd be getting on for something nearer to half the weight of the Snooker table than a quarter.

Thanks, mind at ease :)

I got it from these guys:

http://luxury-pool-tables.co.uk/pool-tables/

You can customise it but it's effectively the table in the top left hand picture. Looked high and low for just the type of thing I wanted.
 
This is the table for anyone who didn't see it in the other thread:

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Actually got the spots in the ceiling on dimmers and 2 different circuits - one circuit is 3 close together above the table, the other is on directional spots that can be angled out and put on dim when you're playing pool. Doesn't do it justice with my phone cam but.....

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Thanks, mind at ease :)

I got it from these guys:

http://luxury-pool-tables.co.uk/pool-tables/

You can customise it but it's effectively the table in the top left hand picture. Looked high and low for just the type of thing I wanted.

They are lovely looking things. You need a big Juliet balcony in the Gable wall so you can absorb those views, whilst supping the Red Wine and enjoying a game of pool.
 
They are lovely looking things. You need a big Juliet balcony in the Gable wall so you can absorb those views, whilst supping the Red Wine and enjoying a game of pool.

:) Have to make do with the balcony at the top of the steps for now, much more and the planners were going to have a coronary.

They weren't 'keen' in the first place. Initial enquiry of feasibility was met with a flat "Not a chance" (it's built on what was agricultural land outside the village boundary so I needed a change of use as well) but I'm a persuasive chap and put forward a fairly robust case.

They kept saying something about having a garage as big as your house was an issue (it's a small house :) ). I tried to explain that in order to keep the Ferrari in there at the same time as the golf sim, and while having a small 'bar' and pool room upstairs it quite obviously needed to be that big. Any smaller and it would stop me using my driver or may cause people to get their drinks knocked over upstairs. And the height was clearly essential given the views. But you know what planners can be like.........
 
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:) Have to make do with the balcony at the top of the steps for now, much more and the planners were going to have a coronary.

They weren't 'keen' in the first place. Initial enquiry of feasibility was met with a flat "Not a chance" (it's built on what was agricultural land outside the village boundary so I needed a change of use as well) but I'm a persuasive chap and put forward a fairly robust case.

They kept saying something about having a garage as big as your house was an issue (it's a small house :) ). I tried to explain that in order to keep the Ferrari in there at the same time as the golf sim, and while having a small 'bar' and pool room upstairs it quite obviously needed to be that big. Any smaller and it would stop me using my driver or may cause people to get their drinks knocked over upstairs. And the height was clearly essential given the views. But you know what planners can be like.........

Putting it like that your lottery win must've been massive. I bet the bribe was huge.
 
This is the table for anyone who didn't see it in the other thread:

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Actually got the spots in the ceiling on dimmers and 2 different circuits - one circuit is 3 close together above the table, the other is on directional spots that can be angled out and put on dim when you're playing pool. Doesn't do it justice with my phone cam but.....

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Is that a 6x3 table? Nice its beats the old battered one I have in the garage doing nothing.
 
Putting it like that your lottery win must've been massive. I bet the bribe was huge.

Lol. No, I just put forward a case that included looking back over cases of permission being granted by them for garages to be built on agricultural land, an assessment of impact on wildlife (I bought half an acre of land from the local farmer and the majority is left as wild flower meadow so a 'net gain' for the wildlife), images taken from all nearest public land showing no impact visually, letters of support from the neighbours who I invited to help me design the place, and a whole lot more. They didn't really have many grounds to say no to be honest.

Are you any good at pool though?

Um....... no, not really :)
 
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Call me when the room looks like this (top right corner):

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love the idea of a pool + golf sim room... We do have a double garage now, but unlikely to get past HID. I want to make a basement for the SIM but waiting for my numbers to land (that way I can get ferrari + pool + golf sim)
 
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