Titleist margins

[Mr_T]

We all know about pro v1s, and we all know that the reason we pay more for them is because they are a premium ball etc... Obviously for any company to do well they have to make profits on there products so ideally they want their margins to be high, the thing that made me think about this was I was browsing on online golf the other day and saw pro v1 practice balls going for 16 quId, titleist claim that these are exactly the same as normal pro v1s just with "practice", written on them, it just got me thinking if titleist can make a profit on their premium ball selling for 16 pounds, think how much they're making on a normal pro v1... At this point I would like to point out i have no problem with titleist charging what they do for their balls, I just found it interesting, anyway else noticed that?

Oh and sorry for the long post... If you're still with me then cheers

 

[chris661]

Did these practice balls not infringe on a Callaway patent but Titleist were allowed to sell them and give a percentage to Callaway?

 

[USER1999]

The practice ones are last years model.

Not that that is a Problem, I doubt if most of us could tell the difference.

 

[USER1999]

The cally / titleist patent stuff still rumbles on. Sue and counter sue. Will be decades before a definitive result.

Simply to do with selling off old stock I'm afraid.

 

[chris661]

The cally / titleist patent stuff still rumbles on. Sue and counter sue. Will be decades before a definitive result.

Simply to do with selling off old stock I'm afraid.

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Ah ok, I was told it by a teaching pro I used to use.

 

[d2cko]

on the practice ball box it says that there is no guarantee which Pro V1 model you will get, so it could be 2001's Pro V1 or 2011's Pro V1x, though I doubt it..

D2

 

[granters]

The bigger the brand, the bigger the margins. It's too simple to say they base cost of the ball is 50p and the sale price is £3.50 and equate that to massive profit. You're paying for research and development, advertising to tell you about the ball, marketing, etc etc. If Titleist didn't make high margins they wouldn't have such a diverse , well produced range of golf gear.

It's horses for courses really. I'm about to try out the Wilson FG Tour ball after reading some brilliant reviews about it. I can get these for 20 quid a dozen, almost half the price of prov's. Wilson don't tend to spend the same amount as Titleist on marketing and are a little more focussed in the market and thus can operate at a lower profit margin. Titleist try to cover everything. The base cost of the FG Tour ball is probably very similar to the prov, but it doesn't have the same exposure.

 

[brendy]

The ProV practice balls are slight seconds, they have either ink or finishing imperfections, I had a couple of dozen and used them as normal balls, no difference.

 

[Scouser]

http://www.direct-golf.co.uk/golf_balls/...ampaign=froogle

 

[Mr_T]

Ahh ok, also what's this callaway/titleist thing? Scuse my poor knowledge but whats it about as I've never heard of it before

 

[brendy]

http://www.direct-golf.co.uk/golf_balls/...ampaign=froogle

These are lesser balls scouser, they have been hit before. The titleist prov proper practice marked balls are brand new and come in a white sleeve/box.

http://discountgolfonline.co.uk/golf-balls/titleist/titleist-pro-v1-practice-golf-balls-dozen

 

[Scouser]

Thought it seemed cheap

 

[Mr_T]

Even if the models vary slightly it still represents pretty good value for money I.m.o.

 

[SatchFan]

Don't forget we have to pay extra to support all the poor Tour Pros who get them for nothing.

 

[allthegear]

Hi, first post, thanks for having me.

I got two dozen of the practice balls - every one was a last year's pro v1. A shame, as I specifically wanted to compare the v1 and v1x and this seemed a bargainous way to do it, but nonetheless these are very good balls at sub-nxt price.

I ended up buying a dozen pro v1x anyway, which are far better for me; ho hum, at least now I know!

 

[TonyN]

The majority of Practice balls we see on the shelves are ones that have been sent by titleist to clubs for Prov1 players to hit on the range. They're probably hit once or twice over the weekend before being collected and sold on to us.

 

[TonyN]

Have just ordered 24 of thos e practice balls from direct golf. I'll post a short review in time.

 

[Mr_T]

Surely though that wouldn't be allowed as they say they are brand new balls so that would be misleading?

 

[TonyN]

The ones Brendy has advertised are brand new, they have come off the prudction line with some kind of blemish, not good enough to pass QA for brand new. So rather than chuck them, they collect them all and stamp practice on them. They are still new, but just not perfect finish.

The ones Direct Golf are selling are LIKE new, hit once or twice, might have a slight scuff mark or blemish from the one or two shots where the pro's have hit it on the range.

Makes no odds to me. As long as there not lake balls, a new ball is used after the first tee shot anyway.

 

[Mr_T]

Ok thanks for the clarification