Titleist ball fitting in this months magazine.

[pokerjoke]

Im baffled by the result.
How can a 28 handicapper be recommended the same ball as a single figure golfer?
A single figure handicapper will hit the greens on the full more often,therfore needing a ball
that stops.
A high handicapper will hit less greens on the full,so surely not the same ball is needed?.
The Titleist ball fitting philosophy is very much about performance.
Basically starting from the green backwards 100 yards and in.
The Prov1s and the Prov1x are the best performing balls regardless of talent levels.[There words]
So does that make all their other models obsolete.
I remember another Titleist test where they recommended a ball based on wether you hit
the green or ran the ball in.
Nick Gould was recommended a Prov1 ,however he prefers to run the ball in,surely a
lower spinning ball would have been better.
Not one of the guys was recommended a NXT,NXT TOUR,DT SOLO,DTS.
Your thoughts

 

[HotDogAssassin]

I had thought exactly the same thing when I read it earlier, everyone was recommended either the V1 or V1X. Was the fitting objective limited to recommending the most expensive ball to each player?

 

[pbrown7582]

I've tried the online titleist fitting and never failed to be recommended pro v1 or 1x, if there claims are its suitable for all levels then, all the rest of their range are just cheap imitations......
Always going to be the same result if you work from green back?

 

[One Planer]

I agree with the OP.

To be frank. I think people look too much into things like this.

And again, if I'm being frank, they are looking for something to blame.

Pick a ball you like the flight, feel and control of and stick with it.

 

[Imurg]

Not cheap imitations, just cheaper alternatives as Titleist are very aware that not everyone can or wants to afford ProVs...

ProVs or similar Premium ball will help anyone around the greens if they can afford them....

 

[pokerjoke]

Not cheap imitations, just cheaper alternatives as Titleist are very aware that not everyone can or wants to afford ProVs...

ProVs or similar Premium ball will help anyone around the greens if they can afford them....

That's fine,but if the best ball suits every player,surely you have to make that ball affordable to all.

 

[Imurg]

The cost will be dictated by the build of the ball, all premium balls are £35+ brand new, all makes have lesser balls taht still perform, but not as well as the top ones, at a more affordable price.
It's like clubs to an extent, you can pay top dollar for top of the range Mizzy's Tileist's etc but if you can't afford them there are cheaper alternatives but they won't have the performance or tech of the top ones.

Having said that, if Titleist sold ProVs at £20 a dozen they probably couldn't keep up with demand....

 

[Mr A]

Flicking through the mag whilst on a break I burst out laughing at this point. Agree fully with the OP. Also had to snigger that those who were wearing caps were wearing titleist caps.

 

[Crow]

As one of the lucky ones to go on the ball fitting (in fact I'm Niclk Gould) we were all given the opportunity to trial every ball in the range on the short game area and then, based on feedback and feel, we selected two to take out on the course to play 18 holes and then we selected our prefered ball.

None of us, as far as I'm aware, were recommended a ball by Titleist.

I took out the NXTS and the Pro V1, I found the Pro V1 was just more predictable and gave more options.
While I do like a bit of run out on my chip shots I can still achieve this by using less loft, but at the same time I can use the greater spin available to stop the ball quicker when necessary.

As Imurg says, we can't all afford to pay for premium balls so the other balls are available that perform well but not quite as well as the best. It's the same way that most of us would sooner drive an Aston Martin than a Renault Clio, but most of us can't afford to.

I'm really enjoying using the Pro V1 (and I'm finding it easier to use less run-out than I have been doing) but whether I'll be able to justify the price when they've all gone remains to be seen, I'd like to hope so!

 

[Crow]

Flicking through the mag whilst on a break I burst out laughing at this point. Agree fully with the OP. Also had to snigger that those who were wearing caps were wearing titleist caps.

If you were given a Titleist cap on the day, and you usually wore a cap, would you not wear it?

 

[Mr A]

If you were given a Titleist cap on the day, and you usually wore a cap, would you not wear it?

Should clarify, just found it funny how over the top the whole thing was.

I would like to ask though, how did the pro v1 compare off the tee, distance and accuracy wise? Did you notice a difference on your misses, ie more fade or draw?

 

[Crow]

Should clarify, just found it funny how over the top the whole thing was.

I would like to ask though, how did the pro v1 compare off the tee, distance and accuracy wise? Did you notice a difference on your misses, ie more fade or draw?

It might look a bit over the top but I found the whole day a fantastic experience.

Off the tee the Pro V1 is great, it doesn't take too much spin on long shots as it's the cover that generates the spin on short game shots where the greater loft of the wedges presents a more angled face to the ball and so grips the cover, if that makes sense, while on longer shots a slightly open or closed face doesn't get that oblique strike and the ball doesn't spin as much as it does on the short game shots.

Don't get me wrong though, it will still slice or hook as much as any other ball if you're really out, but certainly no more than the Srixon AD333 I was using.
Distance is excellent too.

 

[pbrown7582]

Flicking through the mag whilst on a break I burst out laughing at this point. Agree fully with the OP. Also had to snigger that those who were wearing caps were wearing titleist caps.

Think you'll find it pretty standard policy on fitting days like this that everyone gets a shiney new cap to wear, if you were the manufactuer you would do the same too, doesnt look great in pics after if everyone had TM or ping caps on.

 

[Hacker Khan]

I had exactly the same thoughts as the OP as well. It did come across more of an advert for Pro V1s then anything else. It looks like the message Titleist are trying to give is that Pro V1s are the best ball for anyone. And all this guff about balls being made for distance is a load of rubbish as in reality there is very little difference. Which may well be true, and the fact that that they are the most expensive and they probably get the biggest profit margin on them is a bonus.

But the next time Titleist launch a ball that is not a Pro V1, if they were being honest they would use the advertising slogan 'You really should but a Pro V1, but as you did not study hard enough at school then here's a cheaper one that isn't as good. Loser'

 

[pokerjoke]

As one of the lucky ones to go on the ball fitting (in fact I'm Niclk Gould) we were all given the opportunity to trial every ball in the range on the short game area and then, based on feedback and feel, we selected two to take out on the course to play 18 holes and then we selected our prefered ball.

None of us, as far as I'm aware, were recommended a ball by Titleist.

I took out the NXTS and the Pro V1, I found the Pro V1 was just more predictable and gave more options.
While I do like a bit of run out on my chip shots I can still achieve this by using less loft, but at the same time I can use the greater spin available to stop the ball quicker when necessary.

As Imurg says, we can't all afford to pay for premium balls so the other balls are available that perform well but not quite as well as the best. It's the same way that most of us would sooner drive an Aston Martin than a Renault Clio, but most of us can't afford to.

I'm really enjoying using the Pro V1 (and I'm finding it easier to use less run-out than I have been doing) but whether I'll be able to justify the price when they've all gone remains to be seen, I'd like to hope so!

If you were all given the opportunity to test every ball before you went out on the course,
how come no cheaper ball was not chosen,surely a cheaper ball would have suited someone.
If Titleist never recommended none of you the right ball to use[what was the point of the fitting]surely
that was the objective,
Im certainly not questioning you personally,far from it,however Titleist I most definitely am.
It seems to me,as others have said its purely been done to promote there top end balls.
I would have to disagree a little with your final statement there though Nick.
Most pros would recommend getting the ball rolling quicker on shorter chips around the green,imo
its certainly harder to lob the ball all the way to the flag[only my opinion].
I use a prov1x and am not going to change,however Titleist have certainly opened my eyes
to how they work.

 

[MashieNiblick]

I don't really get the issue.

All companies make a range of products with different features aimed at different consumers with different preferences and budgets. They don't all just sell one expensive model even if it would be the best one feature-wise for every one to have.

That's all that is happening here. Just as I can buy a cheaper car or washing machine or laptop or camera that may offer less features than the respective manufacturers' top of the range ones so I can buy a cheaper Titleist (or Srixon or Bridgestone). And if I went for a car or washing machine or laptop or camera "fitting" they'd probably tell me the top of the range one was better. Quelle surprise!

However each product has to be marketed so they will sing the praises of each model. There's no point in them saying don't buy the D300 you should pay extra for the A100, or whatever. That's what the retailer does .

What Titleist are saying is that, contrary to what many people think, your golfing ability is not the main factor in determining the best ball for you. The best ball they make is the best ball for everyone.

I think they are probably right.

 

[Hobbit]

As one of the lucky ones to go on the ball fitting (in fact I'm Niclk Gould) we were all given the opportunity to trial every ball in the range on the short game area and then, based on feedback and feel, we selected two to take out on the course to play 18 holes and then we selected our prefered ball.

I think Crow clears up the impression pretty clearly. The guys being fitted chose the ball they fancied based on their experiences. Spoke to Kev_off_the_tee after he was fitted - sounds like a fantastic experience.

 

[HawkeyeMS]

Flicking through the mag whilst on a break I burst out laughing at this point. Agree fully with the OP. Also had to snigger that those who were wearing caps were wearing titleist caps.

I can almost guarantee they were given the caps and had to wear them. Murph, Rick and I had to wear Footjoy socks, shirts and belts for the XPS-1 fitting. It's all about marketing, they don't want someone on a Titleist ball fitting photshoot wearing a TM hat do they.

 

[Region3]

Golf manufacturer in "marketing garbage" shocker.....

Has this ever happened before?

 

[One Planer]

Golf manufacturer in "marketing garbage" shocker.....

Has this ever happened before?

Have you ever heard of Taylormade Gary