Tiger Woods golf clinic....

Just watched the video with the kid and the 4-iron who is leaning back on the down swing. Tis good...

I'll be watching all these tonight

Great post!

Shame this forum doesn't do a "Rep" system.
 
You're welcome D.D.Dave.


Here's the stack and tilt...OOPS! I mean here's Tiger showing draw and fade...

[video=youtube;VpKJp0KEjvs]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VpKJp0KEjvs[/video]
 
so basically how he moves his hips on the downswing dictates how the ball will move in the air. (Draw or Fade) by coming into the ball from the inside of cutting across it?
 
oakey22 said:
so basically how he moves his hips on the downswing dictates how the ball will move in the air. (Draw or Fade) by coming into the ball from the inside of cutting across it?
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To draw the ball you need to 'encourage' an in-to-out path at impact, setting the hips forward (and more weight) does this. That's how simple the game can be :)

Why can't we draw the ball? because no one ever said to put the hips forward or the weight, so we're all too preoccupied doing exactly the opposite (loading into our right side). Some of the slower learners will take more time... and have a stubborn 'stalwart' attitude that they know best....... better than Tiger in fact! :)
 
Interesting exceprt on TW/s&t I found online -


""The idea behind the story was that Sean Foley, the man that Tiger has been unofficially working with the last few weeks, might push Woods to go stack and tilt, because he likes the ideas behind that golf swing. Let me tell you something and let me tell you it right now; Tiger will never, ever, EVER go with the stack and tilt. EVER. I promise you that.
Basically, the stack and tilt is a type of golf swing that keeps weight forward through the entire swing, adding a steeper shoulder turn than a normal golf swing (hence the "stacked" look). You've seen the commercials on The Golf Channel, with guys like Aaron Baddeley proclaiming that they're "stacked."
The problem is, Baddeley and Mike Weir, the two biggest names behind the swing when it first hit the tour, don't even use it anymore, and a lot of guys have complained of back problems with this technique.
Also, we are talking about Tiger Freakin' Woods here. This is a guy that used a steel-shafted driver well into the 2000s, when everyone else was going graphite, and still hits blades when there is technology for days on the market.
Oh, and Foley teaches guys like Sean O'Hair and Justin Rose, two players that couldn't be further from the stack and tilt format.""



IMO Just cos TW adjusts himself to hit a draw doesn't make it stack and tilt. He may have tilted a little but he's not stacking!
Can't see S&T going anywhere really, its been around a good while now yet still has to be seen to be better than a conventional swing at top level. Baddeley and Weir who dabbled with it also happended to have razor sharp short games, Baddeley had been best putter on tour in past. I suspect any success they had in tournaments using S&T was as much down to hot putters rather than any noticeable improvements in long game. Just a thought!:whistle:
 
Yep, that sounds about right. I'm not sure what the point is though? You can be stacked and tilted yet not be doing the 'stack and tilt' as defined in the instruction. The instruction is a series of elements that you can incorporate into your swing and you can choose/use as many as you like. There are elements that Foley doesn't teach but the pros don't really need to know them as they've been hitting balls for 20years already and gotten 'pretty good' at what they do... not quite the same for 28 h/cap Dave from the Dog & Duck though is it?

If you are stacked and tilted you are breaking the mould and moving away from conventional instruction regardless of whether you follow the entire swing pattern

I'm not sure I could say to my Dad "you can't use S&T because Tiger's not using it, sorry dad but you have to swing like the tour guys, in fact let me teach you how to rotate your hips at 720rpm like Rory.... Dad! Dad!......... come back here you fecker!" :mad:


Birdieman do you know the entire S&T pattern then?
 
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JustOne said:
Birdieman do you know the entire S&T pattern then?
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No I don't, I am interested in all golf mechanics stuff however and am quite well read on golf swings. Was just putting that passage out there to balance the debate and see what you and other s&t advocates made of it. You sound quite passionate about s&t but I would say I'm an agnostic on the subject, not a believer or a non-believer, but I do read as much negative stuff about it as positive which concerns me.
 
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