There could be trouble ahead

[HawkeyeMS]

Our club has recently issued new rules as to how people who withdraw from comps too frequently or don't show up will be dealt with. To my knowledge it hasn't yet been put into practice. Yesterday however it was our end of season masters competition, 36 holes medal. One of the groups ended up as a two ball as the 3rd person was a no show. After the second round I found out that I had just seen the player in question out on the course with a guest. It will be interesting to see how serious the committee are about the new guidelines as to me this is about as bad as it gets. Pulling out late is one thing, just not showing up is worse but not showing up and then playing with a guest on the same day is just something else entirely.

How would your club deal with this?

 

[Deleted member 1147]

At our place you have to check with the other players in your group, so that they won't end up in a 1 ball, advise the pro shop and then drop out. No big issue.

 

[patricks148]

its a tricky one and something my club needs to look at.

Just not turning up and then playing a bounce game is pretty rude to say the least.

ban for 3 medals??

I would like to see this sort of punishment at my place, but not enough people play comps as it is?

 

[pbrown7582]

At our place you have to check with the other players in your group, so that they won't end up in a 1 ball, advise the pro shop and then drop out. No big issue.

This how are is set up, although the case in the OP is well out of order IMO and if new guidelines have been issued then seems like the 1st chance to see how serious the committee is about tackling what they seem to think is a problem.

 

[HomerJSimpson]

Our club has recently issued new rules as to how people who withdraw from comps too frequently or don't show up will be dealt with. To my knowledge it hasn't yet been put into practice. Yesterday however it was our end of season masters competition, 36 holes medal. One of the groups ended up as a two ball as the 3rd person was a no show. After the second round I found out that I had just seen the player in question out on the course with a guest. It will be interesting to see how serious the committee are about the new guidelines as to me this is about as bad as it gets. Pulling out late is one thing, just not showing up is worse but not showing up and then playing with a guest on the same day is just something else entirely.

How would your club deal with this?

Name and shame matey. I would drop the club a line and tell them what you saw and the see what happens and perhaps politely remind them of the communique they released and ask if they plan to start following up. I've a fear it's either hot air and an empty threat but a greater fear that they may be "discrimatory" in who gets pinged (one rule for some - i.e "the claw" and one for others

 

[Foxholer]

Careful guys. Dirty Linen and all that! Is it really something that should be 'gossiped' about publicly? By all means mention it internally - and/or even check with the 'culprit' himself - if you feel it's not being applied consistently.

I happen to know a few others who play at RAGC and if they were being maligned (rightly or wrongly) they'd almost certainly take a dim view of it!

And with a 36-holer, there might well have been a more important requirement elsewhere - kids birthday parties being my mate's occasional 'highest priority orders from above' scheduling issue - that meant he was unavailable for 1 of the rounds!

 

[chellie]

If the player just didn't turn up for the first round there should be punishment imo.

 

[guest100718]

Careful guys. Dirty Linen and all that! Is it really something that should be 'gossiped' about publicly? By all means mention it internally - and/or even check with the 'culprit' himself - if you feel it's not being applied consistently.

I happen to know a few others who play at RAGC and if they were being maligned (rightly or wrongly) they'd almost certainly take a dim view of it!

And with a 36-holer, there might well have been a more important requirement elsewhere - kids birthday parties being my mate's occasional 'highest priority orders from above' scheduling issue - that meant he was unavailable for 1 of the rounds!

I dont see any names being mentioned.

 

[North Mimms]

Careful guys. Dirty Linen and all that! Is it really something that should be 'gossiped' about publicly? By all means mention it internally - and/or even check with the 'culprit' himself - if you feel it's not being applied consistently.

I happen to know a few others who play at RAGC and if they were being maligned (rightly or wrongly) they'd almost certainly take a dim view of it!

And with a 36-holer, there might well have been a more important requirement elsewhere - kids birthday parties being my mate's occasional 'highest priority orders from above' scheduling issue - that meant he was unavailable for 1 of the rounds!

You either sign up for comp and play, or don't.
If there's a kids party to attend, don't sign up for comp!

ETA - Of course the Club in the OP exacerbates any problem of no shows by insisting on only 3 balls, meaning that 2 balls can't play.

 

[Foxholer]

You either sign up for comp and play, or don't.
If there's a kids party to attend, don't sign up for comp!

ETA - Of course the Club in the OP exacerbates any problem of no shows by insisting on only 3 balls, meaning that 2 balls can't play.

Sorry, I was making the assumption that the 'End of Season Masters' comp was one where 'qualification' was required eg winning a Medal that season, and that places were allocated rather than signed up to. If a player signs up, WDs then plays a bounce game, then it's a rather different matter - though not realising it was a 36-holer might be an excuse (a very poor one!).

I can't see much logic in not allowing 2-balls in comps though. Preferring, Yes, and no automatic right to play through, but not allowing them is daft imo!

 

[CMAC]

I dont see any names being mentioned.

I think that's why Foxy said 'careful guys' as Homer has asked for him to be named and shamed.


If the club said they are doing something about it, let them.

If you see it happening lots of times then thats the time to question their actions. What if everyone at the club demanded to know if they were implementing every rule everytime you thought you saw a transgression?

 

[guest100718]

I think that's why Foxy said 'careful guys' as Homer has asked for him to be named and shamed.


If the club said they are doing something about it, let them.

If you see it happening lots of times then thats the time to question their actions. What if everyone at the club demanded to know if they were implementing every rule everytime you thought you saw a transgression?

And I thought he meant at his club as opposed to on here, as saying someone name will mean little to most.

 

[Foxholer]

I think that's why Foxy said 'careful guys' as Homer has asked for him to be named and shamed.


If the club said they are doing something about it, let them.

If you see it happening lots of times then thats the time to question their actions. What if everyone at the club demanded to know if they were implementing every rule everytime you thought you saw a transgression?

Spot on!

 

[the smiling assassin]

I think foxy was the guest and is sticking up for his good for nothing mate...

 

[HomerJSimpson]

I think foxy was the guest and is sticking up for his good for nothing mate...

Scandalous rumours against a find upstanding gent! Mind you the forum has never let the truth get in the way of a good story before!


Hawkeye, text me later

 

[JCW]

You will always have drop outs , if you then have too many rules people wont enter and wait till the day , paid up front will be one option and no refunds if last min but no matter what it will always be there

 

[guest100718]

If you put your name down and dont showm you still have to pay the entry fee at our place.

 

[Foxholer]

I think foxy was the guest and is sticking up for his good for nothing mate...

:rofl: :rofl: Never thought of that! But.. No it wasn't. Never actually played the course!

Scandalous rumours against a find upstanding gent! Mind you the forum has never let the truth get in the way of a good story before!

Er hardly that, but thanks for the vote of confidence!

...

Hawkeye, text me later

That's a more discrete way to handle it!

 

[HawkeyeMS]

Name and shame matey. I would drop the club a line and tell them what you saw and the see what happens and perhaps politely remind them of the communique they released and ask if they plan to start following up. I've a fear it's either hot air and an empty threat but a greater fear that they may be "discrimatory" in who gets pinged (one rule for some - i.e "the claw" and one for others

No naming and shaming, that's not on and of no relevence to anyone here.

Careful guys. Dirty Linen and all that! Is it really something that should be 'gossiped' about publicly? By all means mention it internally - and/or even check with the 'culprit' himself - if you feel it's not being applied consistently.

I happen to know a few others who play at RAGC and if they were being maligned (rightly or wrongly) they'd almost certainly take a dim view of it!

And with a 36-holer, there might well have been a more important requirement elsewhere - kids birthday parties being my mate's occasional 'highest priority orders from above' scheduling issue - that meant he was unavailable for 1 of the rounds!

I was careful not to mention names or the group they were in. Also, you qualify but then have to signal your intent to play, the guy in question would have had to sign up otherwise he wouldn't have been in the draw.

You will always have drop outs , if you then have too many rules people wont enter and wait till the day , paid up front will be one option and no refunds if last min but no matter what it will always be there

No problem with dropouts, that can happen to anyone, but to just not show up and then be seen playing a bounce game while he should have been in the comp is just wrong.

 

[HawkeyeMS]

On a slight tangent, we had a score in PSI after the morning round from someone who hadn't qualified for the comp and wasn't in the draw!