jack1
Assistant Pro
Interested in thoughts about what is the best option to new. Refurbished/lake/refinished etc etc - cheers
The second best option to new pro v
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Imurg
The Grinder Of Pars (Semi Crocked)
Practice........
Curls
Journeyman Pro
Hi Jack, I get all mine on ebay, look for either mint or pearl grade, A grade can be too subjective (someones idea of A grade might be your B), but mint and pearl are usually top. If you have the patience to watch them go you should win 12 decent ones for £15-£18, definitely make sure the ones in the picture are what you are getting and that they are all ProV1 and not a mix of ProV1s and Prov1Xs.
You can't play X-ed out balls in competition, so don't go there. Refinished/lake and refurbished balls make me squeamish because you have no idea how long they were sitting at the bottom of a lake for and they do lose performance if there a while. Plenty on here will sing the praises of ones labelled "Practice", you can but these in many stores. What they are are perfectly normal Prov1s with just a discolouration or ink problem, the balls themselves are what you get in a pack of new ones. If you have the patience on ebay you get ones that are practically new (hit once or twice), and lets face it if you buy a box of new ones at £3 per ball theyll be the same after 1 hole.
How often do you lose a ball? Work out how much one is worth to you, if you want to pay £1 per ball you can, you wont get brilliant ones but its better to play with these than a new but cheap ball that doesnt suit you. If you're willing to go to £1.50 per ball for ProV1s and pay £18 for a dozen of mint on ebay you will get very good ones.
You can't play X-ed out balls in competition, so don't go there. Refinished/lake and refurbished balls make me squeamish because you have no idea how long they were sitting at the bottom of a lake for and they do lose performance if there a while. Plenty on here will sing the praises of ones labelled "Practice", you can but these in many stores. What they are are perfectly normal Prov1s with just a discolouration or ink problem, the balls themselves are what you get in a pack of new ones. If you have the patience on ebay you get ones that are practically new (hit once or twice), and lets face it if you buy a box of new ones at £3 per ball theyll be the same after 1 hole.
How often do you lose a ball? Work out how much one is worth to you, if you want to pay £1 per ball you can, you wont get brilliant ones but its better to play with these than a new but cheap ball that doesnt suit you. If you're willing to go to £1.50 per ball for ProV1s and pay £18 for a dozen of mint on ebay you will get very good ones.
beggsy
Journeyman Pro
Z star at £20 a doz from sports direct
Khamelion
Tour Winner
We're on a roll today
But yes, practice, or any of the cheap premium balls the shops are selling off in readiness for the new lines coming out.
Robobum
Money List Winner
Imurg
The Grinder Of Pars (Semi Crocked)
NOrmal ProV with maybe a slight paint blemish so have "practice" stamped on them to differentiate from pukka ProV's
Same performance and I bet you can't even see the blemish.
About 20-24 quid a dozen
Same performance and I bet you can't even see the blemish.
About 20-24 quid a dozen
duncan mackie
Money List Winner
just in case anyone reads this, and ends up in an argument on the course; it has no basis in fact.
Curls
Journeyman Pro
Gas. I thought it was because they couldn't guarantee that they were perfectly round ie. dimple irregularities, thereby not compliant with regulations. Urban myth so?
Imurg
The Grinder Of Pars (Semi Crocked)
Amazing how this one keeps getting rolled out from time to time....
bladeplayer
Money List Winner
Nice to know that because i have been told its ok to use practice but not the X'd out ones also
Decision 5-1/4
'X-out' is the common name used for a golf ball that a manufacturer considers to be imperfect (usually for aesthetic reasons only, e.g. paint or printing errors) and, therefore, has crossed out the brand name. A 'refurbished' golf ball is a second-hand ball that has been cleaned and stamped as 'refurbished'.
In the absence of strong evidence to suggest that an 'X-out' or 'refurbished' ball does not conform to the Rules, it is permissible for such a ball to be used.
However, in a competition where the Committee has adopted the condition that the ball the player plays must be named on the List of Conforming Golf Balls (see Note to Rule 5-1), such a ball may not be used, even if the ball in question (without the X's or without the 'refurbished' stamp) does appear on the List.
In most cases, 'practice' balls are simply listed, conforming golf balls that have been stamped "Practice", in the same way that golf balls often feature a club or company logo. Such balls may be used even where the Committee has adopted the condition that the ball the player plays must be named on the List of Conforming Golf Balls.
'X-out' is the common name used for a golf ball that a manufacturer considers to be imperfect (usually for aesthetic reasons only, e.g. paint or printing errors) and, therefore, has crossed out the brand name. A 'refurbished' golf ball is a second-hand ball that has been cleaned and stamped as 'refurbished'.
In the absence of strong evidence to suggest that an 'X-out' or 'refurbished' ball does not conform to the Rules, it is permissible for such a ball to be used.
However, in a competition where the Committee has adopted the condition that the ball the player plays must be named on the List of Conforming Golf Balls (see Note to Rule 5-1), such a ball may not be used, even if the ball in question (without the X's or without the 'refurbished' stamp) does appear on the List.
In most cases, 'practice' balls are simply listed, conforming golf balls that have been stamped "Practice", in the same way that golf balls often feature a club or company logo. Such balls may be used even where the Committee has adopted the condition that the ball the player plays must be named on the List of Conforming Golf Balls.
Imurg
The Grinder Of Pars (Semi Crocked)
Only applies to Comps with a Condition of Conformity rule - I'd suggest taht's for Elite Amateur and Pro events only....
I find it strange that you can play with a ball that's not on the conforming list in competition.
duncan mackie
Money List Winner
the ever present risk of not reproducing the entire rule book each time! my fault and I made a decision that it wasn't worth going into the detail in the context of a thread talking about buying second hand balls - but I accept it was a poor choice
there are events that people here may well play in that have the conforming list requirement in their COC (Bournemouth Open week which was discussed here a few days ago is an example).
thanks for posting the full wording, and apologies to Curls
Curls
Journeyman Pro
apologies to Curls
None needed, I was unaware of the full ruling (as I'm sure plenty are) and had I played with/against someone in a club comp I might have fallen foul of said argument, so thanks for clearing it up!
Wolfman
Tour Rookie
Bridgestone E5 2012 model, as good as a Pro v and only £14.00 a dozen
ArnoldArmChewer
Tour Winner
NXT tours are fine balls, Z stars can be picked up at bargain prices just now, see similar thread for Penta TP5 from DGUK
chrisd
Major Champion
Buy Bridgestone 330's brand new and you won't tell that from a Pro v1. You can find them at around £20 per dozen and, I think, it pays to buy 4 or 5 dozen at a time, then you will play with the same ball all the time and get used to their characteristics
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