The GAP between the GAP

[DaveyG]

Hi Guys,

I currently have a Callaway PW (45/46 degrees I believe) a 52 Benross Wedge and a Callaway SW (56 degrees)

As you can imagine the 52 was brought in as a gap wedge which has obviously helped but I just feel there is still too much of a gap.

I hit my PW - 140 yards pretty consistently, its one club I have a lot of confidence in.
I hit my SW - 100 yards again pretty consistantly!

THe 52wedge is great for chipping around the green etc and when I hit it well it is somewhere in the middle of these too but seeing as I have room in the bag I would like to find a 50degree type club that is a cavity back similar to my irons... I just feel so much more confident when its not so thin and blade like.

Any ideas?

 

[Foxholer]

Before you try and fill that gap, what do you hit for shots 100 and under?

And.....Which one of us can't count? Or have you ditched the Ben Sayers?

 

[dotty001]

learn to hit 3/4 and 1/2 shots

 

[sev112]

Got a vice ?

 

[DaveyG]

Before you try and fill that gap, what do you hit for shots 100 and under?

And.....Which one of us can't count? Or have you ditched the Ben Sayers?

Haha sorry yeah the Ben Sayers wedge I have got in the bag but hardly ever use and take out if and when I start playing comps.

For less than 100 I normally use the SW too.

I guess thats it really I need to learn to hit a 3/4 shot... I just don't feel too confident with this so probably needs some work on the practise area.

 

[Deleted Member 1156]

I hit my PW - 140 yards pretty consistently, its one club I have a lot of confidence in.
I hit my SW - 100 yards again pretty consistantly!

You could always hit your wedges normal distances instead of forum distances? 140 is an 8i for most people

 

[drutz]

You could always hit your wedges normal distances instead of forum distances? 140 is an 8i for most people

Was going to say a big difference is clubs there 40yds between clubs. Does this mean you hit your 9 iron over 170yds?

 

[Foxholer]

For less than 100 I normally use the SW too.

I guess thats it really I need to learn to hit a 3/4 shot... I just don't feel too confident with this so probably needs some work on the practise area.

Well that definitely means that you can hit 'less than full' shots. So 3/4. 1/2 and, in your case, maybe even less!

There is an implicit implication that you are not comfortable with the bladey 52* - though tolerate it for 'round the green'

A chunky 58* might also an option. TM ATV seems that way, though I personally don't like them - because of the chunkiness and the cosmetics!

Indeed, proper practice is the best way to sort out the scoring zone distances. You may find the 52 takes over from the SW as well - in which case, reassess the 'chunky 58' option. Dave Pelz has a 'method' as does Stan Utley and there are others. Use the one that best suits and don't reject the other is my approach. But establish your distances and you can then be confident.

 

[DaveyG]

Well that definitely means that you can hit 'less than full' shots. So 3/4. 1/2 and, in your case, maybe even less!

There is an implicit implication that you are not comfortable with the bladey 52* - though tolerate it for 'round the green'

A chunky 58* might also an option. TM ATV seems that way, though I personally don't like them - because of the chunkiness and the cosmetics!

Indeed, proper practice is the best way to sort out the scoring zone distances. You may find the 52 takes over from the SW as well - in which case, reassess the 'chunky 58' option. Dave Pelz has a 'method' as does Stan Utley and there are others. Use the one that best suits and don't reject the other is my approach. But establish your distances and you can then be confident.

Cheers for that, yeah I think around the greens I have a completely different technique for chipping which I have worked on with my pro and feel really confident now

 

[DaveyG]

You could always hit your wedges normal distances instead of forum distances? 140 is an 8i for most people

I was waiting for this, you clearly didn't see my reply post to the one Justone put out there http://forums.golf-monthly.co.uk/sh...te-and-thought-thats-me!-(Bring-on-the-abuse)

Was going to say a big difference is clubs there 40yds between clubs. Does this mean you hit your 9 iron over 170yds?

Nope I hit my 9iron 150...

Like I have mentioned in the other post... I don't need to convince anyone about how far I hit the ball. I know I am not the shortest nor the longest!

 

[Deleted Member 1156]

I did see that thread, I think I commented on it as well. My advice to you is still the same, throttle back on your short irons. They are not distance clubs, they are control clubs. No prizes for hitting a wedge 140 yards if you can't set up a birdie putt.

 

[Foxholer]

I did see that thread, I think I commented on it as well. My advice to you is still the same, throttle back on your short irons. They are not distance clubs, they are control clubs. No prizes for hitting a wedge 140 yards if you can't set up a birdie putt.

I agree with the sentiment, but not the suggestion.

Why throttle back? Just learn to hit less than full shots - presuming these are actually full shots! And if all the 'short' distances happen to be all with a single club, that's fine too.

I only wish I was in a position to have this 'problem'!

 

[SwingsitlikeHogan]

Hi Guys,

I currently have a Callaway PW (45/46 degrees I believe) a 52 Benross Wedge and a Callaway SW (56 degrees)

As you can imagine the 52 was brought in as a gap wedge which has obviously helped but I just feel there is still too much of a gap.

I hit my PW - 140 yards pretty consistently, its one club I have a lot of confidence in.
I hit my SW - 100 yards again pretty consistantly!

THe 52wedge is great for chipping around the green etc and when I hit it well it is somewhere in the middle of these too but seeing as I have room in the bag I would like to find a 50degree type club that is a cavity back similar to my irons... I just feel so much more confident when its not so thin and blade like.

Any ideas?

I have the same 'loft set' - 46* PW, 52* GW and 56* SW

My basic starting yardages are (approx): PW 110-120yds; GW 90-100yds; SW 70-80yds Variations +/- 5 yds on top and bottom of these ranges for 'full'/'half' shots. My standard shots are based on a 3/4 swing.

I think you are slightly 'high' on your yardages - hence your problem.

 

[DaveyG]

I have the same 'loft set' - 46* PW, 52* GW and 56* SW

My basic starting yardages are (approx): PW 110-120yds; GW 90-100yds; SW 70-80yds Variations +/- 5 yds on top and bottom of these ranges for 'full'/'half' shots.

I think you are slightly 'high' on your yardages - hence your problem.

Its a tough one because yes I might be able to swing a little easier but I am swinging very much like my pro wants me too at the moment and I am feeling the results... I have worked hard to compact the swing so I am not falling out of the pose at the end and at times do get a little too fast!

The main thing is though I feel comfortable hitting this distance and these clubs... If I am 120yards out the pitching wedge just doesn't feel right.

I am heading down the club tonight and will have a mess around with some knocked down shots

 

[Deleted Member 1156]

I agree with the sentiment, but not the suggestion.

Why throttle back? Just learn to hit less than full shots - presuming these are actually full shots! And if all the 'short' distances happen to be all with a single club, that's fine too.

I only wish I was in a position to have this 'problem'!

That's exactly what I was suggesting. I could probably hit a PW 140 yards if I really lashed at it. Problem is it would be 120 yards forward and 20 yards offline

Swing smoothly and controlled, concentrate on where it goes, not how far it goes :thup:

 

[guest100718]

140, nice. Thats the same as Gary Woodland but not as far as Quiros.

 

[DaveyG]

140, nice. Thats the same as Gary Woodland but not as far as Quiros.

Appreciaite the genuine response as some people can be a little judgemental on here.

I regularly hold driving shows where I sent balls out of orbit. You should come along!

 

[Deleted Member 1156]

Appreciaite the genuine response as some people can be a little judgemental on here.

I regularly hold driving shows where I sent balls out of orbit. You should come along!

Nobody is being judgemental. You came on here asking for advice and that is what people are suggesting. To hit a PW 140 yards you have to swing very hard and if you don't combine that with great technique, it could go anywhere which entirely defeats the purpose of a scoring club. With all due respect to you, you said you have only being playing 3 years so I'd guess that your technique isn't fully there yet.

So to reiterate my advice, don't thrash at your wedges, concentrate on accuracy instead of distance. A handicap club golfer should be perfectly happy with 100-120 yards with a PW. By doing that you'll see a handicap improvement, I can guaratee that :thup:

 

[Alex1975]

No No No, you are hitting the ball far to hard!!! I love it!!

45* PW, 50* gap, 54* sand, 58* lob may help you, a nice 4* gap. That said its not going to be about degrees for you, its going to be about distance. Your PW to your gap is 7* and that is a lot!

Oh damn, I should have started by calling you a liar....

 

[Mungoscorner]

Some people just like to thrash at the ball, if it works why try throttleing back ?
Choke down the grip and use the same swing, i am almost on the steel of some of my wedges at times.Try it at the range, you'll be amazed how quickly you start to figue out how far down the grip to go for certain yardages. HTH's