Swings and Roundabouts

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Day 1 of our Club Champs. Managed a 83 nett 69 (par 70).

The 7th is a tight par 3 with danger about 10 yards off the back of the green. Thinned my first slightly and I bounced on the green into the rubbish. Took a provisional to be safe and did the exact same thing. So reloaded again! Then went and popped it straight in for a strange hole in one! Managed to find the first ball and salvaged a par but at least I can sort of say I've had a hole in one!

Further into the round and my PP who I play with 2/3 times a week and am very good friends with, although I know of him to improve his lie in the rough, touch the sand in the bunker etc etc in bounce games but we let him get on with it.

He he hit his tee shot left and short of my drive. When looking for the ball he went 10 yards past my ball in the rough and I told him he would never be that far as he caught it thick and used a club less than me (I'm usually a club longer as it is). He wanders around and goes back to the spot he visited previously and claims he has found his ball. I thought I must have been wrong so got on with the game. I noticed when we were on the green his ball didn't have his usual mark on and he then marked his ball went to his bag and I saw him swap balls in the corner of my eye.

Now he ended up shooting a 78 nett 64 and will be in a great position for tomorrow. I hardly spoke to him for the rest of the round weighing up what I should do.

I obviously don't want to upset him but find it annoying how he gloats how well he played knowing full well I've played well within the rules and he hasn't.

Both of us are new to the club, and the best conclusion I came to was to have a quiet word with the captain, saying I would like to remain anonymous for obvious reasons but maybe he could tackle him on the subject.

Just looking for for a little advice as I'm sure a few others have been put in this situation.

The he thing that annoys me the most is that he is putting me in such a bad position. If I say something I'm public enemy number one and if I don't he will keep on doing it!

thanks.
 
What ever the rights or wrongs of you PPs actions,in my opinion if you do not mention it at the time it is too late now
An awkward situation develops in a "comp" because you let it go in bounce games.
You either call cheats at the time or never in my opinion.
 
If you are 100% certain, and I mean 100%, tell him you think he made a mistake. Explain to him that in your opinion you feel he played the wrong ball. Don't say to him he's a cheat. Ask him to consider his actions, and if he feels he made a mistake suggest to him he withdraws from the comp.
 
I don't think you can ask the captain to have a word with him I think that's unfair on the captain. It has to be tackled at the time,it not just you he's putting one over its all the other players too.
 
I think you need to tell him your concerns and ask him to tell the handicap secretary he might have signed for a wrong score today and so needs to be DQ'd and give him the option first. If not you owe it to everybody else playing to report him. What happens if he has a career day and wins?

A cheat is a cheat and you need to be penalising him in bounce games too so this situation doesn't arise. Did the club let you pick your own partner for the club champs or was it the fate of the draw? At the end of the day shop him
 
I don't think you can ask the captain to have a word with him I think that's unfair on the captain. It has to be tackled at the time,it not just you he's putting one over its all the other players too.

I sort of meant him saying someone saw him cheat etc, as I would like to maintain our friendship.

Whatever I do someone will be unhappy.

We decided to play together, as I have known him for years, played football and cricket together and now golf. I'm partly to blame for allowing him to 'cheat' whilst playing bounce games, but when I've mentioned something he makes you feel as if you are in the wrong if that makes sense.

It's an awkward situation and I think I might have a word tomorrow as we are playing the second round tomorrow as well. I'll give him the opportunity to admit he did it.

The issue lies that I can't be 100% certain as I didn't see him actually drop the ball but he 'found' the ball exactly where he was previously looking and then I 100% saw him change his ball (which I think you can't do mid hole).

It's about time we clamped down on it when we play together during the week, so I might have a little word with our playing partners, I'm all for a quiet life, but when he's rubbing it in your face that he's 3 up (friendly banter) it hurts when you know you haven't moved your ball in the rough, discounted any bad shots etc etc.

Thanks for everyone's input, much appreciated.
 
Did you mark and sign his card?

Yes I know it makes me as bad as he.

If I had said something then it would have been a hostile situation in front of a packed clubhouse, and if I didn't I was the only one aware it happened and it's starting to slowly eat away at me. I'll be following him to every ball tomorrow.
 
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