Swing video - short game

[Kellfire]

Here are two videos (available in HD for your viewing pleasure ) I took today, one a longer pitch, one short.

When I developed the shanks last year my pro told me I was coming way inside and worked on taking the club away more vertically, which to me it feels like I do. This video tells a different story!

Also more leg movement than I felt I had...!

Any tips welcome...

Short pitch -

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HtFaA-27wuw


Longer pitch -

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gl-gIRtvrko

Thanks to any who look!

 

[bobmac]

2 things I noticed.
Fanning on the backswing
No divot

 

[Kellfire]

Would a more upright swing help to keep the club face from fanning? I'm working on strengthening the right hand (the V current points towards the left shoulder), my pro said that would help to keep the face where I want it to be.

And I tend to pick every club, I rarely take a divot with any club. :/

 

[bobmac]

Would a more upright swing help to keep the club face from fanning? I'm working on strengthening the right hand (the V current points towards the left shoulder), my pro said that would help to keep the face where I want it to be.

And I tend to pick every club, I rarely take a divot with any club. :/

Did you mean right shoulder?

I'd rather see you take a divot, especially when pitching

 

[richy]

2 things I noticed.
Fanning on the backswing
No divot

Do you have to take a divot while pitching?

I thought the new thinking was to use the bounce of the club and 'bruise' the turf?

 

[Kellfire]

Did you mean right shoulder?

I'd rather see you take a divot, especially when pitching

No, my right hand V points to the left. I weakened my grip from a ridiculously over-strong grip when I first took lessons and now he wants me to strengthen my right hand up a touch back to a more neutral position. He said having such a weak right hand would lead to me opening the club face on the backswing and having to save it at impact.

 

[bobmac]

I agree with him.
If your V is pointing at your left shoulder, you're making it more difficult for your self and will cause shanks

 

[bobmac]

Do you have to take a divot while pitching?

I thought the new thinking was to use the bounce of the club and 'bruise' the turf?

Only if you want to hit the high shot and only off a juicey lie

 

[moogie]

I thought there was NO divot cos u are at an indoor range hitting off a mat.......??.....

 

[bobmac]

You can hear the club isnt thumping the mat as it would if he was taking a divot on grass

 

[Kellfire]

I thought there was NO divot cos u are at an indoor range hitting off a mat.......??.....

Would still make a chunkier contact with the ground if I did normally take one, I know what Bob means.

 

[garyinderry]

is it recommended to take the club inside like that. for those kind of pitches I sometimes use a lot more of an out to in swing cutting across the ball.


watch this from 2.50

[video=youtube;GXIo8jj3cl0]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GXIo8jj3cl0[/video]

 

[bobmac]

Id say there's a difference between swinging back on the inside and fanning and rolling the wrists open

 

[garyinderry]

even so, what do you think about cutting it slightly?

 

[bobmac]

No problems with that.
What Kelfire is doing is rolling his wrists.
KF, try and keep your right thumb on top of the shaft for the first 3 feet of the swing then hinge your thumb towards your right ear

 

[garyinderry]

would I be right in thinking he is risking the leading edge digging into the ground with that action?

 

[bobmac]

would I be right in thinking he is risking the leading edge digging into the ground with that action?

I would say that if KFs right hand is very weak the there is a good chance the club face will be open at impact, increasing the bounce meaning the leading edge would miss the ground altogether which is why he doesn't take any divots

 

[garyinderry]

ive never been able to have a weak right hand grip. must be why I tend to dig.

 

[bobmac]

ive never been able to have a weak right hand grip. must be why I tend to dig.

Maybe you need more wedges

 

[lyden]

And I tend to pick every club, I rarely take a divot with any club. :/

This would be my biggest concern.