Swing tips from a random stranger

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Was meant to be playing this morning but after last nights weather our course was closed so we decide to go to the range at St Andrews. Started hitting 7 irons and was hitting them with a nice wee draw into a stiff wind when out the blue this random stranger asked me if i minded him telling what i was doing wrong, que my mates laughing there heads.

He started going on i was doing it all wrong i listened and thanked him and went back to hitting the same.

Would you lads take any advice from someone random ,over to you
 
I have had the odd bit of advice sent my way over the years, I just smile and wave..
 
Was meant to be playing this morning but after last nights weather our course was closed so we decide to go to the range at St Andrews. Started hitting 7 irons and was hitting them with a nice wee draw into a stiff wind when out the blue this random stranger asked me if i minded him telling what i was doing wrong, que my mates laughing there heads.

He started going on i was doing it all wrong i listened and thanked him and went back to hitting the same.

Would you lads take any advice from someone random ,over to you

1) I would have joined your mates in laughing.
2) if it was me I would have asked the individual in question to hit a few shots for me before I took his advice
- please hit a 5 iron with a draw that starts at that target before drawing 5 yards in the air
- please hit a second 5 iron with a 3 yard fade
- please could you hit a low 4 iron that keep under the wind
- please could you hit all 4 of your wedges into each of the 4 targets that are spread out between 50-100 yards on the range
- hit a draw, followed by fade, followed by a stinger with your driver
- I'd like you to hit your 7, 6 and 5 iron 150 yards so I know you can control your distance and you don't just hit your clubs 100%each time


If they did all this to a high standard I would probably agree they are a good golfer and probably listen to some advice they offered. But I would ask whether they would also offer their advice to Jim Furyk, Ryan Moore, Moe Norman (if he was still alive), Arnold Palmer etc... because they didn't have picture perfect swings.
 
For someone to offer up advice without being asked suggests ... over confidence in their knowledge or absolute pity for you. Either way be polite and listen, there may be a gem in there, what you think your doing and what you are doing can be two different things. Plus he hasn't asked you for a fight and is trying to instigate a conversation.
 
Dilemma!!!

How do you know you aren't turning away the advice of a swing coaching genius who has that one simple nugget that will turn you into a legend in your own lunch hour!!!

I'd still be tempted to tell him where to go though :(
 
Ask him to show you how it should be done and if he/she makes a mess of it tell them to jog on. I had this once from the club know all and asked him to demo it to me, he promptly thinned his drive about 100 yards after which he handed me my club back and walked off and has never spoken to me since and that was in the summer of 2012
 
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2) if it was me I would have asked the individual in question to hit a few shots for me before I took his advice
- please hit a 5 iron with a draw that starts at that target before drawing 5 yards in the air
- please hit a second 5 iron with a 3 yard fade
- please could you hit a low 4 iron that keep under the wind
- please could you hit all 4 of your wedges into each of the 4 targets that are spread out between 50-100 yards on the range
- hit a draw, followed by fade, followed by a stinger with your driver
- I'd like you to hit your 7, 6 and 5 iron 150 yards so I know you can control your distance and you don't just hit your clubs 100%each time


If they did all this to a high standard I would probably agree they are a good golfer and probably listen to some advice they offered.

You seem to have a very high opinion on the ability of good golfers, I doubt most tour pro's could do all that to order at the first time of asking!


Personally I'd politely suggest that as I have lessons with someone else and don't want to get different swing thoughts mixed up whilst playing, I would not be wanting his advice.
 
why would you not even listen to what he has to say?


listen, try it, disregard, go on with your life!


some people love to pay £20 for the information the dogs in the street could give them!
 
I have picked up some little golden nuggets from people I do not know before. Best one was this:

forget where the flag is, just fire into the middle of the green. Unless you are playing on big old links greens you will never be too far away from the flag.

but regarding telling me what I am doing wrong with my swing I would not listen to a word until I had seen them hitting some balls first. Someone random tried telling me the reason I was hooking my driver down the range was because I was too much on the inside. What they did not realise I had just bought an R11s and was messing about with the settings. I put it back to my normal settings and smashed 3 down the centre, took one look at him and he walked away.

in golf I find that people are normally really friendly and just want to help you, but it can be annoying when they are trying to tell you what to do when they do not know your swing and you do not know them.
 
Was meant to be playing this morning but after last nights weather our course was closed so we decide to go to the range at St Andrews. Started hitting 7 irons and was hitting them with a nice wee draw into a stiff wind when out the blue this random stranger asked me if i minded him telling what i was doing wrong, que my mates laughing there heads.

He started going on i was doing it all wrong i listened and thanked him and went back to hitting the same.

Would you lads take any advice from someone random ,over to you

I start by saying.........."have a hit and demonstrate what you mean"................:smirk:
 
It was just some random old guy who started saying he was getting some lessons he played of a certain handicap and i watched him hit it like crap. I was to polite to say jog on ,he said i was to steep coming into the ball which is nonsense i was working on get width in my swing which is why i had my poles out doing the drill i got from the guy i get my lessons from.

My mates were just about rolling on the floor as its always me who gets the village idiots.
 
What was Justone doing up at St Andrews?

Darn you Johno i wanted to say something like that ha ha

Out of curiosity Steve did what he say make any sense at all ? were you tempted to try it at all .. was he hitting balls at the range aswell & did you see him hit any ..

Id always be polite and listen once the person giving the "advice" was politely giving it ...


EDIT sorry mate you were answering most of my questions as i was replying .. DOH
 
Darn you Johno i wanted to say something like that ha ha

Out of curiosity Steve did what he say make any sense at all ? were you tempted to try it at all .. was he hitting balls at the range aswell & did you see him hit any ..

Id always be polite and listen once the person giving the "advice" was politely giving it …





EDIT sorry mate you were answering most of my questions as i was replying .. DOH

Ive never been so embarrassed ,maybe because my dafty mates were both who now all about my swing and what I'm working on, i didn't take on board what i said as I'm working on putting a bit of width in my swing and i now I'm not coming down steep ,the thing was i was hitting it sweet.
 
Iv had it before..... And I'm always open minded..... Like was suggested above.... There may be a little gem in there somewhere.......

Did you see how this chap had been hitting the ball......


I know that there's this one chap that uses the range I use....

He's in his late 60's, plays off 1.4 ( I didn't know this at the time) and is pretty loud..... But last week I was on the range hitting balls and there was only the 2 of us.... After a while he comes up and introduces himself... We shake hands and have a bit of a chin wag about the game and ourselves...
He could tell I was working on my posture and asked if I would mind a little help..... Sure enough he twigged what was wrong.... My clubs were very upright for my swing.....

We got one bent and he presto.. better shots and better posture.......


Oh and Snelly will love this........ He asked me about what I was hoping to achieve....I said low singles..... His reply be happy with the ball flight you have and work on your short game...... Too many people worry he said about trying to draw the ball and tie themselves in knots..... You have a nice swing and a nice shape to your ball flight.... Don't mess with it......

Kind of makes me ask questions of myself.... All after a harmless chat......
 
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