supplimentry cards

[nil1121]

Hello,

I undertsand there is a new rule coming in which states that cat 1 players can no longer submit supplimentry cards. I have read the rule and just wanted someone to confirm whether this rule comes in the 1st March 2014 or 1st Jan 2014 ?

thanks

 

[Deleted member 17920]

Hello,

I undertsand there is a new rule coming in which states that cat 1 players can no longer submit supplimentry cards. I have read the rule and just wanted someone to confirm whether this rule comes in the 1st March 2014 or 1st Jan 2014 ?

thanks

Correct. http://www.englandgolf.org/page.aspx?sitesectionid=633

A player in Category 1 with a Non-Competition handicap on the 1st March may return up to a maximum of three Supplementary Scores to regain a Competition handicap.
 A player in Category 1with a Competition handicap on the 1st March may not return any Supplementary Scores until September 1st and then only as many as required up to a maximum of three, in order to retain a Competition handicap.

 

[nil1121]

thanks for the reply.

So cards can still be submitted by cat 1 players up to the 1st March 2014.

 

[Deleted member 17920]

thanks for the reply.

So cards can still be submitted by cat 1 players up to the 1st March 2014.

No the changes take effect from the 1st Jan 2014.

 

[Tommo21]

Anyone any idea as to how this came about and why...?

 

[nil1121]

From what i have heard there are alot of plus handicappers out there that got that way by supplimentary cards so i think they wanted to stop this from happening.

 

[DCB]

Anyone any idea as to how this came about and why...?

No suggestion of it up here yet Tommo. I've not seen any info on it in relation to our clubs .... yet

 

[Tommo21]

Aye Dave.....how does this read to you.

Following feedback from Clubs and Counties, England Golf referred the issue of Supplementary Scores for Category 1 players to CONGU. Along with the other home unions it has been agreed that there will be a restriction placed on the use of Supplementary Scores by Category 1 players and any player attaining a Category 1 handicap.

 

[Tommo21]

I’m guessing they don’t want cat 1 golfers picking a good day in the summer and blitzing the course in order to keep their HC down more easily.

 

[duncan mackie]

I’m guessing they don’t want cat 1 golfers picking a good day in the summer and blitzing the course in order to keep their HC down more easily.

basically yes! they opened a door and too many people walked through for the wrong reasons.

at the elite level they already focus more on away/open scores and the world rankings take that further with the nature of the competition etc all included.

 

[LIG]

No the changes take effect from the 1st Jan 2014.

That's not quite how I read it LQ. Admittedly, the period from now until 31.12.13 is still "old rules" and the period from 1.1.14 to 28.2.14 is "new rules" but the latter period must allow a cat one player to retain/regain his/her "competition handicap".

Therefore, IMHO it means that a Cat 1 player can submit more supplementary cards (upto a total of three within the period from 1.1.13 to 28.2.14 (notice the years!) IF:-

1. he/she did not hold a competition handicap at 1.3.13 (i.e. he/she had not submitted sufficient cards during the previous year 2012) AND
2. he/she has not already submitted three qualifying scores (including supplementary scores) since that date in order to regain a "competition handicap"


As to why the change -- I suspect artificially low handicaps beeing managed out as supplementaries can't be submitted in summer.

 

[duncan mackie]

That's not quite how I read it LQ. Admittedly, the period from now until 31.12.13 is still "old rules" and the period from 1.1.14 to 28.2.14 is "new rules" but the latter period must allow a cat one player to retain/regain his/her "competition handicap".

Therefore, IMHO it means that a Cat 1 player can submit more supplementary cards (upto a total of three within the period from 1.1.13 to 28.2.14 (notice the years!) IF:-

1. he/she did not hold a competition handicap at 1.3.13 (i.e. he/she had not submitted sufficient cards during the previous year 2012) AND
2. he/she has not already submitted three qualifying scores (including supplementary scores) since that date in order to regain a "competition handicap"


As to why the change -- I suspect artificially low handicaps beeing managed out as supplementaries can't be submitted in summer.

I think I agree, but this looks a complicated way of presenting it.

I would go with a Cat 1 player being able to submit supplemental cards in the period from 1.1.14 to 28.2.14 until they have submitted a total of 3 Q score since 1.1.13.

I agree the principle remains that they are there to permit a Cat 1 player (and others) to retain/regain his/her "competition handicap" but would point out that such cards can be submitted in the summer for the purpose of regaining a C handicap, but agree it's no longer an option for retaining one (not quite the deliberate avoidance of summer conditions though - more the princlple that it's only into the second half of the period that such steps should become necessary!)