Supplementary Cards

[2blue]

How does your Club handle them.

How much notice.... who to?

Other than the restrictions laid down by CONGU....

Does your Club apply any others?

eg. Only allow them under certain circumstances etc

Are these restrictions allowed??

 

[DCB]

Only allow them under certain circumstances etc

What do you mean ?

 

[Bazz]

Just turn and tell them in the Pro shop before going out. Hit my best ever score the first time I did one :whoo:

 

[Deleted member 18121]

At mine you need to tell the pro shop before hand who will give you a book to sign. You then just pop your card in a box in the clubhouse after.

Round completed with another member obviously.

 

[Crawfy]

Pretty much as above
We have no Pro Shop so you sign in and confirm your supplementary round intention before teeing off.
Play with another member, get it signed and pop it in the box
No more than 10 a season and more that 1 per week if memory serves me right.

I like to use them midweek summer evenings when the course is in good nic and also quiet...

 

[Deleted member 15344]

Sign the book in the pro shop

Go out and play

Enter your score into The psi

Myself or a another will confirm the score with the scorecard

 

[SwingsitlikeHogan]

Sign the book in the pro shop

Go out and play

Enter your score into The psi

Myself or a another will confirm the score with the scorecard

As LP above and previous responses - not aware of any restrictions or constraints other than those that would apply in any case for casual play at the time you were fancying playing.

 

[Fyldewhite]

We don't do them. I know that's wrong but we offer a full competition calendar and this has never been raised by any of our members that they want to do supplementary cards......nor has the facility to do so been advertised by the committee. To be brutally honest, it would be seen as a licence to get 0.1 whenever you "needed" it in many quarters rather than a mechanism to get your handicap down or retain a competition handicap. Personally, I don't think they are representative of competition play and though no doubt very useful for a small proportion of players/clubs, I don't believe they add much to the average club running an average competition calendar.

 

[Deleted member 16999]

We don't do them. I know that's wrong but we offer a full competition calendar and this has never been raised by any of our members that they want to do supplementary cards......nor has the facility to do so been advertised by the committee. To be brutally honest, it would be seen as a licence to get 0.1 whenever you "needed" it in many quarters rather than a mechanism to get your handicap down or retain a competition handicap. Personally, I don't think they are representative of competition play and though no doubt very useful for a small proportion of players/clubs, I don't believe they add much to the average club running an average competition calendar.

Genuine question, can a club actually refuse them?

 

[Tarkus1212]

Like most clubs we have them and the process is as described above. However the system is open to abuse and there is at least one member at my club that is using supplementary cards to build his handicap.

 

[tugglesf239]

Pop head into pro shop, sign a book and give the pro a quid.

Job done really.

 

[SwingsitlikeHogan]

Like most clubs we have them and the process is as described above. However the system is open to abuse and there is at least one member at my club that is using supplementary cards to build his handicap.

How to you mean by that? If he puts in cards that score higher than his handicap - he will go up 0.1. He has to put an awful lot of supplementary cards for his h/cap to go up by even two shots. And as he has to put in EVERY supplementary he takes out he can't just put in those that give him a +0.1. And it is simply up to his marker to observe if he seems to regularly unfortunately 'blow' good rounds over the last few holes.

If I felt that my current handicap was too low I might well put in a load of supplementarys and if I was right then the cards would reflect that and I'd get 0.1 increases - and I might also expect an increase under the Annual Review. But there is no building a handicap - just trying to get to a handicap that reflects my standard of play

 

[Fyldewhite]

Genuine question, can a club actually refuse them?

Well, they can.......but they shouldn't. If a player took it up with the County I'm sure the club would be told in no uncertain terms to offer the facility. Would be interested to hear if anyone has ever tested this though.

How to you mean by that? If he puts in cards that score higher than his handicap - he will go up 0.1. He has to put an awful lot of supplementary cards for his h/cap to go up by even two shots. And as he has to put in EVERY supplementary he takes out he can't just put in those that give him a +0.1. And it is simply up to his marker to observe if he seems to regularly unfortunately 'blow' good rounds over the last few holes.

If I felt that my current handicap was too low I might well put in a load of supplementarys and if I was right then the cards would reflect that and I'd get 0.1 increases - and I might also expect an increase under the Annual Review. But there is no building a handicap - just trying to get to a handicap that reflects my standard of play

If you think a couple of extra 0.1's in the run up to a big comp (maybe 36 hole so that extra shot is 2 shots) isn't very tempting to some of doubtful honesty then you have a lot to learn!!

 

[SwingsitlikeHogan]

Well, they can.......but they shouldn't. If a player took it up with the County I'm sure the club would be told in no uncertain terms to offer the facility. Would be interested to hear if anyone has ever tested this though.




If you think a couple of extra 0.1's in the run up to a big comp (maybe 36 hole so that extra shot is 2 shots) isn't very tempting to some of doubtful honesty then you have a lot to learn!!

Oh I know all about that - I could have done it myself this year to get a shot 'back' just prior to a match/comp

But your h/cap matches reflects your cards. And if he puts cards in the nudges his handicap up to a 0.5 and up he goes - that's how the handicap system works. If he puts cards in having deliberately played poorly to manipulate the system, then that's for his conscience and the committee to deal with. I do see your point - and do get it

 

[KhalJimbo]

Like most clubs we have them and the process is as described above. However the system is open to abuse and there is at least one member at my club that is using supplementary cards to build his handicap.

Pardon my ignorance, but is that not what a supplementary is for?

 

[duncan mackie]

Pardon my ignorance, but is that not what a supplementary is for?

They are (1) to enable players who are othwise struggling to retain a (c) status to their handicap and (2) for a player who believes their handicap isn't truly reflective of there current capabilities to illustrate the point and either increase or decrease their handicap as appropriate.

Any accusations of a player building an unreflective handicap should be dealt with rather than through any actions affecting all members.

When the handicap authority introduces such processes it is terrible when clubs think they know better - the instant consideration is 'what else do they do their way rather than as required?'

 

[woody69]

Pop head into pro shop, sign a book and give the pro a quid.

Job done really.

You pay a pound to hand in a supplementary? How odd.

Ours doesn't follow correct guidelines. You don't have to say you are doing one, just go out with a member and get it signed and if you decide after not to hand it in (because you're due a 0.1 or will be slashed 5 shots (if you are that way inclined)) there is nothing to stop you. Open to abuse basically.

 

[Fyldewhite]

When the handicap authority introduces such processes it is terrible when clubs think they know better - the instant consideration is 'what else do they do their way rather than as required?'

In full agreement with you Duncan and I think the only true answer to that question is "All sorts" However, on supplementary cards I do feel, and I may be wrong, that most clubs/players should have no need for them. You only need to play in a few comps a year to remain (c) and if your handicap isn't right just play in more comps! I have a strong feeling with this one that the rules are a sledgehammer to crack a nut in terms of "solving" a problem that doesn't really exist at most clubs. I'm not condoning clubs not complying with the rules but as I said above, if there was a real need, wouldn't players be screaming to be allowed to do them? I think the fact that they aren't maybe speaks volumes.

 

[Fyldewhite]

You pay a pound to hand in a supplementary? How odd.

You don't get those 0.1's for nothing you know!! At our place @ £3 a comp.....it's £30 a shot!!

 

[Deleted member 15344]

Supplementary cards are very useful for fast improving golfers where the amount of qualifiers can't keep up with their improving ability

They have helped one of our juniors move from 20 this year to 5

Also helps people who have suffered injury or have been unable to fulfill the amount of qualifiers to ensure they keep an active handicap

They are very useful tool for clubs who don't want to fill every weekend with a qualifier