Sunday golf quiz question

[the_coach]

most folks have heard the term 'rolling release' or 'roll over release' when hands & fore-arms roll over creating a bunch of club face rotation (bordering upto 180º of face rotation) to square the club into impact

this was pretty prevalent in teaching for a whole bunch of time as the main method to have a club face get to square at impact

does anyone know why & when this method evolved & the reason why it did ? - PGA Pro's excluded from taking part

 

[Break90]

Coach, either your account has been hacked or you seem to have forgotten how this forum works.

WE post complex questions with very little relevant information, to which YOU then reply with very comprehensive, very detailed, very easy to understand replies that solve all our problems.

 

[mcbroon]

Yeah, I don't know what any of that means.

 

[HawkeyeMS]

I've never heard of those terms, or understand them. Sorry.

 

[the_coach]

Coach, either your account has been hacked or you seem to have forgotten how this forum works.

WE post complex questions with very little relevant information, to which YOU then reply with very comprehensive, very detailed, very easy to understand replies that solve all our problems.

ha- ha !!

no not hacked as 'open' sunday just thought I'd post a quiz question - of which the answer/s really originates from the uk

 

[chrisd]

I'll have a stab at an answer


It was started a long while ago

because they didn't have Trackman to analyse their swings properly

please send my prize to ........ Mr Chri ........

 

[Blue in Munich]

Something to do with either hickory shafts in order to square the face up or the restrictive jackets that we used to play in?

 

[chrisd]

Something to do with either hickory shafts in order to square the face up or the restrictive jackets that we used to play in?

The ONLY reason your jacket was restrictive was because you're a big pudding! 😂😂😂

 

[the_coach]

I'll have a stab at an answer


It was started a long while ago

because they didn't have Trackman to analyse their swings properly

please send my prize to ........ Mr Chri ........

nice try chrisd

 

[the_coach]

Something to do with either hickory shafts in order to square the face up or the restrictive jackets that we used to play in?

a good 3/4 of the ways to the answer - Blue in Munich :thup: - but there's a very specific reason as to the why
- nothin to do with the jackets though

 

[Crow]

Because hickory shafts had so much twist in the shaft that it was required to roll the wrists over to offset this?

 

[the_coach]

Because hickory shafts had so much twist in the shaft that it was required to roll the wrists over to offset this?

again an even further than 3/4's ways to the precise answer :thup: so what you say is very true - can you expand the answer a tad more?

 

[SwingsitlikeHogan]

Harry Vardon will know - must go have a read of his book.

 

[chrisd]

The gear effect?

 

[the_coach]

Harry Vardon will know - must go have a read of his book.

I guess he would

 

[the_coach]

The gear effect?

nope - not gear effect

 

[Crow]

again an even further than 3/4's ways to the precise answer :thup: so what you say is very true - can you expand the answer a tad more?

As the club was swung down the shaft twisted and so left the face open, resulting in a slice, rolling the wrists corrected this?

 

[the_coach]

As the club was swung down the shaft twisted and so left the face open, resulting in a slice, rolling the wrists corrected this?

okay that's close enough will give you that :thup:

the initial 'flex' point of the hickory shaft because of weight in the club head & the wooden shaft was/is in top 1/3rd of the shaft nearer to the handle

so when the player changed the direction of movement at transition into the top half of the downswing with the weight of the club head the shaft torqued clockwise so actively 'opened' the club face a ways open

so players learnt that to get the face anywheres near to square into impact consistently required actively rolling over the forearms wrists & hands - so roll release or roll & release & the few other names it goes by
it then remained as a primary teaching thought long after the shafts changed over to steel

just thought a 'sunday quiz golf question' might prove an interesting change/diversion from the norm so that's the reason I posted it up in the 1st place

- suppose if anyone interested in making it a regular thing then the 'winner' could pose the next sunday question ? just would have to be something that wasn't that easily searched on friend google

so up to you Crow if you want to take it on next sunday - if not no problem - i'll think of another question & if it runs it runs if not no worries

 

[dewsweeper]

Good thread.
But where is Phill when you need him?