virtuocity
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Can you stand on an intended line of a chip?
Standing on the line of a chip
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rulefan
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Rule 8-2a
Except on the putting green, a player may have the line of play indicated to him by anyone, but no one may be positioned by the player on or close to the line or an extension of the line beyond the hole while the stroke is being made.
Except on the putting green, a player may have the line of play indicated to him by anyone, but no one may be positioned by the player on or close to the line or an extension of the line beyond the hole while the stroke is being made.
CliveW
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As far as I'm aware, there is no rule which prevents a player from accidentally standing on the line of a putt or chip on the green. There is however mention in the etiquette section under Consideration of Other Players, On the Putting Green, and the wording is 'Should not stand on another player's line of putt'...
However, Decision 16-1a/12 "Player Walks on Line of Putt" states Q. A player walked on HIS line of putt. Did he incur a penalty for breach of Rule 16-1a? A. Yes, if he did so intentionally. No, if he did so accidentally and the act did not improve the line.
I don't think there is any penalty for standing on the line of play through the green.
However, Decision 16-1a/12 "Player Walks on Line of Putt" states Q. A player walked on HIS line of putt. Did he incur a penalty for breach of Rule 16-1a? A. Yes, if he did so intentionally. No, if he did so accidentally and the act did not improve the line.
I don't think there is any penalty for standing on the line of play through the green.
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backwoodsman
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Answers will rather depend on what you actually mean. Do you mean stranding on the line of flight of the ball - or the line of roll after it lands. And before or during the shot?
rulefan
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Presumably as it is a chip the ball is not on the green so the green is not relevant.
The ball has not yet been played as it is an 'intended' chip.
In addition if the 'you' in the question is a partner or one of their caddies, rule 14-2b applies.
A player must not make a stroke with his caddie, his partner or his partner's caddie positioned on or close to an extension of the line of play or line of putt behind the ball.
Otherwise 8-2a applies.
The ball has not yet been played as it is an 'intended' chip.
In addition if the 'you' in the question is a partner or one of their caddies, rule 14-2b applies.
A player must not make a stroke with his caddie, his partner or his partner's caddie positioned on or close to an extension of the line of play or line of putt behind the ball.
Otherwise 8-2a applies.
CliveW
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Surely rules 8-2 and 14-2 are to do with aiding the player with alignment and indicating line of play rather than standing on the line of play?
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rulefan
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Perhaps vituocity will enlighten us on the situation.
atticusfinch
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My usga guru encountered this issue in a seminar. The facts were that the caddie was standing on an extension of the line looking away from the hole not giving any aid. My guru's advice (as always) is to read the rule literally and do not try to read into it, no matter how logical. The purpose of the rule may be as you say, but an official can only apply the written rule, not his interpretation of it.
The rule says your caddie cannot stand on the extended line of play. Accidentally or not.
palindromicbob
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Was thinking the same. Not enough information.
louise_a
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If you are down a steep bank near the green and cannot see the flag, is it ok for someone to stand and give you the line to the flag before you play your shot?
rulefan
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Yes, providing they move away before you make the stroke.
Colin L
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Which, Rules apart and considering the damage a golf ball can do to you, would be the sensible thing to do anyway
atticusfinch
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Yes. See R 8-2a
CliveW
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Who mentioned a caddie? The OP certainly didn't. My understanding from the OP was can a player or his fellow competitor stand on their line.
atticusfinch
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Because I was commenting on the case presented in the seminar as told by my usga friend.
Foxholer
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Which, Rules apart and considering the damage a golf ball can do to you, would be the sensible thing to do anyway
Then again, standing in the 'intended' line is often a far safer place then elsewhere!
Though it may be against the Rules.As for the OP...my answer would be 'it depends on the circumstances'. So if Virt can explain the circumstances, there might be a more enlightening answer.
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