Spieth's Monitoring warning

[drdel]

So the European Tour is starting at the top.

Jordan Spieth attracted a warning for 'slow' play on his putt. Not the most blatant slow shot, they were not out of position, but interesting to see if more players fall foul.

 

[Deleted member 15344]

He will be faced with a possible £2000 fine

Believe that to be meaningless to multi million players

Shot punishments will be the only deterrent IMO

 

[ruff-driver]

Quote from the pga website

"Sometimes referees have to use a bit of common sense," said McIlroy, who sympathized with Spieth.

 

[HawkeyeMS]

He will be faced with a possible £2000 fine

Believe that to be meaningless to multi million players

Shot punishments will be the only deterrent IMO

It's an absolutely pointless punishment. As you say, shots are the only penalty that hurts them.

 

[Hacker Khan]

Damned if they do...

Everyone moaned when they fined that Chinese 8 year old amateur at The Masters for slow play, so at least as the OP said they are going for the top players now. Hardly surprising a fellow golfer would stick up for him but I think it is a good thing that they have the balls to try and address this serious issue.

 

[HawkeyeMS]

Damned if they do...Everyone moaned when they fined that Chinese 8 year old amateur at The Masters for slow play, so at least as the OP said they are going for the top players now. Hardly surprising a fellow golfer would stick up for him but I think it is a good thing that they have the balls to try and address this serious issue.

"Having the balls" would be a points deduction. Fining multimillionaires £2000 is not going to solve anything.

 

[Deleted member 15344]

Damned if they do...

Everyone moaned when they fined that Chinese 8 year old amateur at The Masters for slow play, so at least as the OP said they are going for the top players now. Hardly surprising a fellow golfer would stick up for him but I think it is a good thing that they have the balls to try and address this serious issue.

If they really had the balls they would dock the players shots

Token fines is the same as fines to multimillionaire footballers - achieve nothing but add to the coffers of the governing body

 

[Oddsocks]

The only thing I'd like to see if the fines going back into a golf related charity

 

[Three]

The process is to issue a warning first.

Next comes officially being put "on the clock,ie timed over each shot...

Subsequent breaches can, and do, attract penalty shots, I don't know why you are all assuming it won't happen.

 

[hines57]

He will be faced with a possible £2000 fine

Believe that to be meaningless to multi million players

Shot punishments will be the only deterrent IMO

- absolutely agree. Shot penalties as in all other infringements.

 

[HawkeyeMS]

The process is to issue a warning first.

Next comes officially being put "on the clock,ie timed over each shot...

Subsequent breaches can, and do, attract penalty shots, I don't know why you are all assuming it won't happen.

The ET website describes the process and there is no mention of shot deductions

 

[Deleted member 15344]

The process is to issue a warning first.

Next comes officially being put "on the clock,ie timed over each shot...

Subsequent breaches can, and do, attract penalty shots, I don't know why you are all assuming it won't happen.

Im guessing because it doesn't happen despite numerous campaigns and threats

 

[SwingsitlikeHogan]

If not the fine then hopefully the embarrassment of being fined will jolt the offenders.

 

[Deleted member 15344]

If not the fine then hopefully the embarrassment of being fined will jolt the offenders.

Do you really think they would be embrassed ?

 

[pokerjoke]

Yes watched it live this morning and I can tell you he was not happy at all and it was only a warning.
He was having a good old conversation with RF waving his arms about.

The thing that worries me is that if it does become shots we could get some major ding dongs going on during rounds.

 

[Norrin Radd]

he was warned because he took a minute and a half for one putt ,the regulation is 40 seconds apparently.

 

[SwingsitlikeHogan]

Yes watched it live this morning and I can tell you he was not happy at all and it was only a warning.
He was having a good old conversation with RF waving his arms about.

The thing that worries me is that if it does become shots we could get some major ding dongs going on during rounds.

And surely the last thing any golfer wants is to get angry or irritated about something during the round - really disruptive. So pulling em up during the round must bother them - at least a bit. So maybe the default is a fine - with the potential of a shot penalty to be decided at end of their round. Now that threat would play on their mind even if it was a bit unlikely.

 

[SammmeBee]

And surely the last thing any golfer wants is to get angry or irritated about something during the round - really disruptive. So pulling em up during the round must bother them - at least a bit. So maybe the default is a fine - with the potential of a shot penalty to be decided at end of their round. Now that threat would play on their mind even if it was a bit unlikely.

Or play quicker maybe.......

 

[Three]

The ET website describes the process and there is no mention of shot deductions

"All other parts of the Condition of Competition on the ET Hard Card relating to Pace of Play apply as before except that Players will be advised when either “Monitoring” or “Timing” will commence.
Read more at http://app.europeantour.com/webapp/news/newsid=283109.html#TgXwkikpTHojF74L.99"

It refers to the existing Conditions of Competition on the European Tour Hardcard.

By the way it's shot additions, not deductions, that would be slightly unfair

 

[Pippo_T]

I don't see how they could introduce a shot penalty, unless they split the rule book between the pros and amateurs. A financial fine imposed for not conducting their job in the correct professional terms is something they can apply to pros only.

A one shot penalty would have to apply throughout, would love to see that play out across amateur golf club competitions!!