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So Joe Cole's got away (for now) with a driving ban. He was clocked doing 105. The fact that Cole claims he wasn't speeding is laughable but that's not the subject of the rant.
His ban is suspended for 50 days because his wife was "car-jacked" 2 weeks ago and is too traumatised to drive.
Now I feel sorry for the Girl, it can't have been a nice experience. But why does Hubby escape a ban?

Answer - they can't take public transport as their profile is too high.
Ok I can see that. But why didn't the Judge say "Well Mr Cole, I think you can use some of the £80k a week that Liverpool pay you and hire a ######## Chauffeur youtightwad!!!!!!!!!"

These people live in a different world and have no concept of reality.

Bunch of Mindless Jerks who'll be first against the wall when the Revolution comes.
 

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To be fair to them. I know of someone how got caught doing 103 on the M3 at 3am in the morning..... £2k fine, 42 days ban, 50 quid costs and 15 quid victim surcharge. But on the other hand I've seen someone do 110+ get away with 6 points and a small fine.

Just because they earn stupid money and are in the public eye doesn't mean the law should treat them any other way.

I'm with you on it though. I would like to see a year long ban and then limited once they re-test so small engines of say 1600cc or less. Cant be many cars with street cred from the fellow ball kickers with small engines
 

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Bunch of Mindless Jerks who'll be first against the wall when the Revolution comes.

Is there a revolution soon? Good, count me in.

There is justice in the world,(?) we can pay footballers £5,000,000+ a year, treat them completely differently to normal folk (I know plenty of ban-ees on 100mph) and then stop school rebuilding programs, cancel £10k playgrounds for kids and then waste £190,000 for a bridge for dormice over a new bypass.

I'll be at the front of the revolution; taking up arms against the moronically crazy world that so-called intelligent folk have created on our behalf.

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I think an income based scheme similar to the ones that some Scandinavian Countries have would be a good solution. They might think twice if it costs them hundreds of thousands (or even millions) of pounds.
 

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madandra : You shouldnt have been done - I was done for 36 in a 30, and was offered the Road Safety Course instead of points etc, - was categorically told by a Traffic Officer there, that 10% +2 is the tolerated limit for speed.

Having said that, maybe its different in different areas ?

Just a thought.....
 

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These people live in a different world and have no concept of reality.
Footballers have nothing on the pampered pooches that play the European & PGA tour. How do you punish highly paid sportstars though? Taking away their licence will have no effect as their clubs will happily arrange a chauffeur 24/7 for them. It just means that their Ferrari's have to stay in the triple garage for a year or two. In that respect they are unpunished regardless of sentence.
 

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I got done doing 35 in a 30 zone I am gonna court in October ... MWJ ... I could do with all the hELP i can get !!!!!!!



Am blooterd by the way !!!!!

For help on speeding or parking matters look at pepipoo.com they are brilliant at giving help. They are particularly helpful if given parking tickets and all the advice is free!


Chris
 

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Footballers have nothing on the pampered pooches that play the European & PGA tour.

Sorry, have to disagree.
If a golfer plays rubbish and misses the cut, he gets nothing.
If a footballer plays rubbish he still gets his squillion pounds a week wages :mad: :mad: :mad:
 

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Sorry, have to disagree.
If a golfer plays rubbish and misses the cut, he gets nothing.
If a footballer plays rubbish he still gets his squillion pounds a week wages :mad: :mad: :mad:


Nor did the footballer pay for his caddy, travel expenses, hotel etc etc etc
 

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Footballers have nothing on the pampered pooches that play the European & PGA tour.

Sorry, have to disagree.
If a golfer plays rubbish and misses the cut, he gets nothing.
If a footballer plays rubbish he still gets his squillion pounds a week wages :mad: :mad: :mad:

Ok so a first prize of 233000 from a total prize fund of 1.4 million at the Johnny Walker is low paid work then for 7 days?
 

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I agree, if they win they get a huge amount of money (too much in my opinion) but only one person wins and he has to be at his best and beat eveyone.
My point is if you're playing rubbish, you miss the cut and you get nowt. Now, I wouldn't call that being pampered.
 

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Lets look at Peter Hansen

Last week he picked up a big cheque. 333k euros - about £275k. That's a big payday in anyone's book. So far this year he's won about £900k. Lets be generous and say he earns another 250k before the end of the season. And a bit more so lets say he finishes the year with 1,25 million. That's 24k a week. Cole is getting £73k a week.

So its well paid but only 1/3 of the wage of higher end Premier Leaguer.

Apparently the average wage of a premier leaguer is £13k per week. But he gets that every week. Every week regardless. That's still 676k a year possibly for playing in the reserves or sitting on the bench.

Sam Hutsby has won £120 this year. He'll get a bit more but he's unlikely to make 200k. That's less than 4k a week. Out of that he's got pay caddies, travelling expenses etc. Ok there's sponsorship to take into account but Cole gets far more than than Hansen or Hutsby. And if a golfer misses the cut they get nothing. They lose money. Don't forget too that Sam is currently last in the queue for next year's Tour Cards. There's plenty more below him that earn far less.

Top Footballers have it easy, they have too much power, are paid too much - they don't earn it - and have little grasp of real life.
 

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Top Footballers have it easy, they have too much power, are paid too much - they don't earn it - and have little grasp of real life.

Like banks then. The reason banks are at the top of my hit list is because they live in a world where £70 is like 70p to me. I can afford a £70 charge (not that I ever get charged) but for some folk this is almost 2 days work after deductions.
If my bank wanted to charge me the equivalent of 2 days work, I don't know what I'd do, but it wouldn't be pretty.

Getting back on topic....:D :D

In the case of a speeding footballer, given that it's hardly crime of the century, just give him a 7 day ban, fine him £25,000 and give the money to a deserving cause.
 

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Speeding has got into the phsyce of everyone these days. We all do it to some degree but how many actually think about the consequences?
As I said, we all speed to an extent. You may think that just a few mph over the limit isn't going to make much difference.
You probably all know (well I hope you do!) that the chances of surviving being hit by a car at 30mph are 80% in your favour but those chances drop to 20% at 40 mph.

Did you know that if you are hit at 36mph - just a few over the speed limit - your chances are 50:50. On a knife edge. For the sake of a few miles an hour.

A few years ago a Police force did a very unscientific test. They took 2 identical cars and devised a 40 mile route covering all types of roads. One car had to be driven bang on speed limit. The other, as long as they stayed safe, could go faster.
They set off at the same time.
How much quicker did the speeding car get to the destination?


Precisely 97 seconds.

A minute and a half quicker and they were doing speeds like 40 in a 30 and 50 in a 40.

And by the way.

A speed limit is just that - a limit. Not a target.
 

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given that it's hardly crime of the century

How many people die on the roads every year because someone is driving too fast ?

This is absolutely true Bob, don't get me wrong, I am totally committed to being one of the people that stands up and says no to speeding. To my mind, there is a difference between tipping over 100 mph on an out-of-town dual carriage way or motorway and driving at 60 mph down my road (30mph), or the other arterial roads out of my city for example, where people have indeed lost their lives.
I'm not condoning it, I'm suggesting that a proper warning (or minor conviction) and a commensurate fine ought to suffice. In this case, the fine was £600 court costs. Hardly a deterrent. I'd rather the authorities started to make an example of speeders and hit them in the wallet as hard as sensibly possible. There's no shortage of drivers around here on their mobiles in the car and what happens to them if they get caught. £60. That's it. In my world, I'd make it £500 rising to instant 12 month ban and £1000 for repeat offenders.
I remember when folks tolerated driving over the limit. That's more or less gone now. It's all about perception. Speeding is not acceptable. Have I driven over the speed limit on a major road?...yes. Do I exceed 30 around town and/or use my mobile phone?...no.

Maybe I'm being too lenient on the man in question.
 

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I've said this for many years, anyone with a criminal record cannot get a 'professional' licence. So, the footballers who spend time inside for whatever reason would only be able to play amateur football when they leave prison. As far as I'm concerned, it's the only deterrent (although I like the maximum capacity of the engine punishment though).

I believe the same operates in boxing (although Tyson still fought so perhaps that's wrong...)
 

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given that it's hardly crime of the century

How many people die on the roads every year because someone is driving too fast ?

This is absolutely true Bob, don't get me wrong, I am totally committed to being one of the people that stands up and says no to speeding. To my mind, there is a difference between tipping over 100 mph on an out-of-town dual carriage way or motorway and driving at 60 mph down my road (30mph), or the other arterial roads out of my city for example, where people have indeed lost their lives.
I'm not condoning it, I'm suggesting that a proper warning (or minor conviction) and a commensurate fine ought to suffice. In this case, the fine was £600 court costs. Hardly a deterrent. I'd rather the authorities started to make an example of speeders and hit them in the wallet as hard as sensibly possible. There's no shortage of drivers around here on their mobiles in the car and what happens to them if they get caught. £60. That's it. In my world, I'd make it £500 rising to instant 12 month ban and £1000 for repeat offenders.
I remember when folks tolerated driving over the limit. That's more or less gone now. It's all about perception. Speeding is not acceptable. Have I driven over the speed limit on a major road?...yes. Do I exceed 30 around town and/or use my mobile phone?...no.

Maybe I'm being too lenient on the man in question.


don't get me started on 'professional drivers'. I see more lorries speeding between cameras, lorry drivers on the phone through roundabouts - and why do so many fall over? everyday somewhere 'road closed due to overturned lorry'.
and yes van drivers are as bad, if not worse if that's possible.

simple solution though - plead you shouldn't be banned as it's your living - quadruple (or more) the fine.
 
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