So it is confirmed then. The new G30 has little fins!

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Looks like ping are definitely ditching the traditional look for the new G30 woods. Early speculation had many Ping fans thinking the leaked photos were not real and no way would Ping do something so radical.

What do you guys think?
 
I'm a Ping fanboy and it looks a bit weird for me. Then again, not too keen on the look of the G25 driver. Still happy with tag classic (ish) looking Rapture.
 
Guessing if the fins improve the stabilization through the strike so more consistent solid centered strikes & possibly even add the odd mph too, it may well start to win quite a few folks round. If the 'i30' proves to be better than the i25 they'll have themselves quite a club.

Guess the undoubted success of TM's SLDR & loft up - it definitely works with their new CG placing model.
The new changeable core from Calli (though less convinced about that myself) and seemingly even something a little out of the ordinary from the forthcoming Titleist, even Ping found themselves under some pressure to produce something a little ways 'different'.
 
For those with slightly longer memories, they will also recall numerous other drivers with dimples, channels, fins and the like to allegedly create faster swing speed through less drag and greater stability through impact. No surprises either that these designs didn't really last the course of time and were clearly earmarked for the "gimmick" pile at the local secondhand store.
I fear that the latest Ping concept may be somewhat along these lines (pun intended) but also agree the previous models were indeed a tough act to follow - let alone outdo. Stick with the stuff that works Ping - not the stuff that doesn't (*cough* any more incarnations of the Anser putter necessary?)
 
I wasn't fussed on the irons. Very G25 but the driver has me a little more interested just to see what these fins are about. I would assume the I30 won't be out until next year as they usually role out 4-6 months after the G range. I would hope these won't be too funky but I have my doubts
 
I'm never one to worry about what a club looks like. I can get over that very quickly if it performs. Having said that I'm most interested in the relatively conservative looking G30 irons as I could do with an upgrade from my Cobras. I particularly applaud the change in gapping in the long irons. For most GI users, gaps in longer irons are too close. It will be interesting to see if the G30 really does create more consistent gaps for average golfers like myself.
 
Just saw the picks, I was expecting some serious wings...not those puny little efforts
 
Rooter said:
And at some speed before they become effective i would say...
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Ye I would have thought 90/100 mph should be enough. The GM video review is interesting in that Paul recons he gained a few yards/mph from his own G25.

I have to say I am not sure I buy into this one.... Still have an eye on a SLDR for next year although the 913D has just started really performing! (cough cough long drive champ at Forest of Arden on tuesday if I have not managed to fit that into every post I have been in so far this week....!!!)
 
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Just to prove that I'm not just sceptical about TM launches, the Turbulators are just a gimmick IMHO. Just like all the other aerodynamic improvements that have come and gone over the last few years.
 
From what I have read, the turbulators on the club for the average club golfer with a driver speed of around 90-100mph, gives them around 0.5 to 1mph increase, which equates to around 1yd extra distance.

The big changes occur when you start swing a 115-120mph then you start to see the difference.

[video=youtube;XQOxZGGsYQs]http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=XQOxZGGsYQs[/video]
 
Khamelion said:
From what I have read, the turbulators on the club for the average club golfer with a driver speed of around 90-100mph, gives them around 0.5 to 1mph increase, which equates to around 1yd extra distance.

The big changes occur when you start swing a 115-120mph then you start to see the difference.

[video=youtube;XQOxZGGsYQs]http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=XQOxZGGsYQs[/video]
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When they put the Driver heads in the wind tunnel, did you notice how they were careful that it was covered until moments before it was required to avoid the surface gathering any foreign objects? I'm assuming they do this because the foreign objects affect the results? I am also assuming that the heads were put into the tunnel at the correct angle such that it got the best performance from the turbulators.

I am almost certain that the turbulators do do what Ping say, I am equally certain that...

a) most of us don't clean our clubs and also have scratches\ imperfections on the surface
b) most of us don't deliver the clubhead to the ball square

I know very little about aerodynamics, but I am going to hazard a guess that if the clubhead is open or shut, the turbulators won't have nearly the same effect as they would at the right angle, they could indeed have a negative effect.

I know from listening to the TM rep that Pro's will bite manufacturers hands off for 1 extra yard of driver distance, but your average club golfer isn't going to see the benefit.

Having said all of this, Ping aren't designing clubs for the average golfer, they are designing them for the pros and hoping that enough amateurs fall for the gimmicks to earn them some money...

....cynical, moi?
 
HawkeyeMS said:
When they put the Driver heads in the wind tunnel, did you notice how they were careful that it was covered until moments before it was required to avoid the surface gathering any foreign objects? I'm assuming they do this because the foreign objects affect the results? I am also assuming that the heads were put into the tunnel at the correct angle such that it got the best performance from the turbulators.

I am almost certain that the turbulators do do what Ping say, I am equally certain that...

a) most of us don't clean our clubs and also have scratches\ imperfections on the surface
b) most of us don't deliver the clubhead to the ball square

I know very little about aerodynamics, but I am going to hazard a guess that if the clubhead is open or shut, the turbulators won't have nearly the same effect as they would at the right angle, they could indeed have a negative effect.

I know from listening to the TM rep that Pro's will bite manufacturers hands off for 1 extra yard of driver distance, but your average club golfer isn't going to see the benefit.

Having said all of this, Ping aren't designing clubs for the average golfer, they are designing them for the pros and hoping that enough amateurs fall for the gimmicks to earn them some money...

....cynical, moi?
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I know from my love of F1 that as soon as the wind changes direction it massively changes the balance of the car, they do airo check them for more than just head on as clearly they are always changing direction but the teams run there wind tunnels 24/7 365... or as much as they are allowed to these days.

I would say as you have that they work but I would think the window of effectiveness is pretty tight.

All that being said, Ping do a 2 year cycle and there is no reason they would not try and make this model better than the last.
 
To me there has to be proof.
TM Sldr loft up campaign had proof,even the sceptics
We're proven too.(mark cross field for 1).
I for one don't need more length Ive never
Played a par 5 I could reach in 2 in perfect
Conditions,however accuracy and consistency
Of strike is another story.
I'm with others on this where the pros would
Benefit but Ameteurs not enough to notice.
I for one would like to see company's give
Fitting oppurtunitys to players that use there own
Old clubs and show the improvement they
Are advertising as appossed to players that
Use old clubs and there would be obvious improvement.
 
I am one of the sceptics and not sure how turbulators are going to make me swing quicker. Not even sure that's a good thing. It's been slowed to a blur as it is and fractionally under Mach 1. Not sure adding more speed will help especially if accuracy (such as I have) is compromised
 
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