Smith Commission

[Doon frae Troon]

https://www.smith-commission.scot/

At a quick glance looks like a decent fudge.

Scottish parliament and 16/17 year voters now permanent.
Crown Estates now devolved.

Free whisky every Thursday [I made that one u:smirk ]

 

[SocketRocket]

And Scottish MPs voting on income tax for the rest of the UK. That's rubbish!

 

[Foxholer]

And Scottish MPs voting on income tax for the rest of the UK. That's rubbish!

I don't see any problem with Scottish MPs voting on UK wide tax issues, as they are generally as relevant to their Scottish constituencies as to English MPs own ones.

But there are certainly enough 'England only' issues where I don't believe they should have a say.

Not particularly Smith Commission related, though Crown Estates will become devolved, but I'm a bit nervous about Sturgeon's attitude to Hunting Estates. That seems based more on envy/class warfare than economic logic!

 

[Val]

And Scottish MPs voting on income tax for the rest of the UK. That's rubbish!

Why? Scottish MP's sit in parliament to represent their constituancy in the UK government, you have a Scottish MP as secretary to the treasury, shouldnt he get a vote, he is as crucial s the Chancellor.

 

[Val]

I don't see any problem with Scottish MPs voting on UK wide tax issues, as they are generally as relevant to their Scottish constituencies as to English MPs own ones.

But there are certainly enough 'England only' issues where I don't believe they should have a say.

Not particularly Smith Commission related, though Crown Estates will become devolved, but I'm a bit nervous about Sturgeon's attitude to Hunting Estates. That seems based more on envy/class warfare than economic logic!

Good post, Crown Estate could be a problem, particularly where biomass energy is concerned as their is not enough forestry to supply UK demand of timber and associated products without adding more.

 

[williamalex1]

I don't see any problem with Scottish MPs voting on UK wide tax issues, as they are generally as relevant to their Scottish constituencies as to English MPs own ones.

But there are certainly enough 'England only' issues where I don't believe they should have a say.

Not particularly Smith Commission related, though Crown Estates will become devolved, but I'm a bit nervous about Sturgeon's attitude to Hunting Estates. That seems based more on envy/class warfare than economic logic!

Is Fox hunting involved

 

[Foxholer]

Is Fox hunting involved

Foxholer Hunting might be!

There are a few Hunts in Scotland, but it's the Grouse and other Hunting Estates that I'm nervous about. The owners are quite capable of simply closing the commercial activities down, but there's so many locals dependent on that activity who haven't the 'flexibility' to do something else!

 

[Doon frae Troon]

Good to see the proposals for the Crown estates decisions to be further devolved to the Cooncils.
Good news for Scottish Airports also.

Ms Sturgeon did not seem to be too pleased in Parliament.

 

[Doon frae Troon]

Foxholer Hunting might be!

There are a few Hunts in Scotland, but it's the Grouse and other Hunting Estates that I'm nervous about. The owners are quite capable of simply closing the commercial activities down, but there's so many locals dependent on that activity who haven't the 'flexibility' to do something else!

The shooting estates around here seem to be doing quite nicely. Current costs of £300 a gun plus £35 a bird. [£1200 per head approx]
Three shoots a week, 10 guns, makes that £36k a week for 5 months. Beaters getting £25 a day + lunch.

 

[Foxholer]

Good to see the proposals for the Crown estates decisions to be further devolved to the Cooncils.

Why?

I believe Crown Estates are run 'for the long term good of the entire area'! I can imagine Councils taking decisions that might be convenient in the short term, but aren't good overall! But then I'm a supporter of the long-term approach of the House of Lords having a moderating effect on the short term goals of the majority in the Commons (whoever it is), even if seemingly populated by a bunch of sleepy old farts (most are actually quite the opposite!).

Good news for Scottish Airports also.

I agree, though it's relatively token.

Ms Sturgeon did not seem to be too pleased in Parliament.

I think I see that as a positive too!

 

[ColchesterFC]

For all those supporting Scottish independence what's the feeling in Scotland at the minute from the pre-referendum talk of an independent Scotland being supported by a "cautious estimate of oil prices remaining at around £113 per barrel" what with the price at close of business today being $72.5 and no immediate signs of it climbing back to it's previous levels?

 

[Val]

Good to see the proposals for the Crown estates decisions to be further devolved to the Cooncils.
Good news for Scottish Airports also.

Ms Sturgeon did not seem to be too pleased in Parliament.

What good news for airports? Surely you mean airlines?

 

[Val]

For all those supporting Scottish independence what's the feeling in Scotland at the minute from the pre-referendum talk of an independent Scotland being supported by a "cautious estimate of oil prices remaining at around £113 per barrel" what with the price at close of business today being $72.5 and no immediate signs of it climbing back to it's previous levels?

It's not been reported that strongly, it's on the news as other news and rightly so. The referendum is over and hopefully for my lifetime as I don't fancy this nonsense again before i leave this planet.

 

[Deleted member 15344]

I'm sure the reduction in airline tax would be made up somewhere else

 

[Val]

I'm sure the reduction in airline tax would be made up somewhere else

Correct, you get nothing for nothing.

 

[Spuddy]

What good news for airports? Surely you mean airlines?

How do you think airports make money????

Less APD=cheaper tickets=more passengers=more money for airports through increased ticket charge income and footfall.

 

[Foxholer]

How do you think airports make money????

Less APD=cheaper tickets=more passengers=more money for airports through increased ticket charge income and footfall.

Well, that's the theory! And it also provides a marketing incentive to favour Scotland as a destination too, so more 'tourist Dollars/Pounds/Euros. I don't think it'll perform anywhere near the levels SNP was promoting but, to quote a certain English company's phrase 'Every little counts'!

 

[Doon frae Troon]

For all those supporting Scottish independence what's the feeling in Scotland at the minute from the pre-referendum talk of an independent Scotland being supported by a "cautious estimate of oil prices remaining at around £113 per barrel" what with the price at close of business today being $72.5 and no immediate signs of it climbing back to it's previous levels?

I think we are into fracking now.
Much of the central belt feeding into Grangemouth.

 

[Doon frae Troon]

What good news for airports? Surely you mean airlines?

I was under the impression that airlines were charged at airports for landing and taking off.

 

[SocketRocket]

Why? Scottish MP's sit in parliament to represent their constituancy in the UK government, you have a Scottish MP as secretary to the treasury, shouldnt he get a vote, he is as crucial s the Chancellor.

But they will sit in the Scottish parliament and vote for Scottish income tax rates while English MP's wont. Surely its not correct that Scottish MPs should also vote on English tax rates as well?

And no, he shouldn't vote on them if he sits in the Scottish parliament. He can administer the results though.