Slow Play

[weldmax]

Just looking for your thoughts on this.
While playing in a stableford competition at the weekend a member of a fourball two groups behind mine, shouted over to us that we had fallen two holes behind the group in front.
Now, there was a two hole gap between us and the group in front, however, what this guy didn't know (and nor did I until I checked the time sheet on my return to the clubhouse) was the tee slot in front of us was completely empty and the one before that was taken by a three ball. So logically they would be faster.
We were moving at a fairly brisk pace and on no occasion did we hold up the group behind.
I just thought it was a bit out of order, I was also playing with a junior member who appeared to be a bit shaken by it all. Am I just being over sensitive?
Sorry if it's a bit long winded.

 

[jammydodger]

Do you know who the guy was that shouted over ? If so then just go and explain the situation to him and ask him to have a little more respect for other players out on the course.

Slow play is a very sensitive issue with golfers and people can become frustrated very quickly if they perceive a break down in the pace of play.

 

[drawboy]

Get a bloody move on Smiffy.

 

[Smiffy]

Do you know who the guy was that shouted over ? If so then just go and explain the situation to him and ask him to have a little more respect for other players out on the course.

Knobs like that don't listen unfortunately.
I was playing with Murph, JustoneUK and Leftie at my club at the week-end. Due to the bloody stupid teeing off restrictions put in place on a Sunday we weren't allowed to tee off the first as a fourball until 2.00pm, so we had to tee off the 10th, and then we had to wait until 12.00 midday.
Stepped up onto the tee at 5 minutes to, and some *** member who was standing in the queue piped up "you're five minutes early" despite the fact that the 9th hole was completely clear so nobody was going to be pushing up our jacksie anyway and the 10th green was empty, as was the 11th tee.
Bloody knob members

 

[pokerjoke]

I played sunday the 4 ball in front were playing each hole between 12 and 15 minutes and dropped two holes behind the group in front,this is a regular fourball and we have been forwarned about there slow play and are advised not to play behind them but we had no choice,it was so slow it messed up any rythym and i played crap,never again.

 

[USER1999]

I have had someone call out about 'holding the whole course up' once when playing in a medal. Some knob saw us waiting on the 7th tee for about ten minutes, and called across. What he couldn't see, was that two dogs were having a fight on the fairway, with the four owners trying to break it up, so we couldn't tee off. Nothing like having half the picture and jumping to conclusions.

 

[haplesshacker]

I'm very concious of the tee times and gaps. As much as it is nice not having to wait on a tee. I hate having a clear tee slot or two in front of our game. Two hours later around the course, it could be seen that we're well behind, as you described. Where-as in reality you're not. It's impossible to tell when you're out on the course though.

 

[Robobum]

I'm very concious of the tee times and gaps. As much as it is nice not having to wait on a tee. I hate having a clear tee slot or two in front of our game. Two hours later around the course, it could be seen that we're well behind, as you described. Where-as in reality you're not. It's impossible to tell when you're out on the course though.

That's a simple one though HH. Regardless of whether you are slow or not, if there is a faster group coming up behind you then just let them play through.

 

[HomerJSimpson]

I think the guy in the OP was way out of order especially during a competition. If there were groups stacking up behind then he'd have apoint but the fact that the course was moving freely and no-one was being unduly delayed in my book makes him a prize pillock. I'd certainly be having words next time I saw him and firmly point out that if he's going to have a go, make sure he'd got his facts straight. I bet a quick look at HDID will show he was having a nightmare and wanted a scapegoat

 

[JustOne]

Just looking for your thoughts on this.
While playing in a stableford competition at the weekend a member of a fourball two groups behind mine, shouted over to us that we had fallen two holes behind the group in front.

I'd have told him to.......you can guess the rest

 

[haplesshacker]

I'm very concious of the tee times and gaps. As much as it is nice not having to wait on a tee. I hate having a clear tee slot or two in front of our game. Two hours later around the course, it could be seen that we're well behind, as you described. Where-as in reality you're not. It's impossible to tell when you're out on the course though.

That's a simple one though HH. Regardless of whether you are slow or not, if there is a faster group coming up behind you then just let them play through.

No! Really!! I'd never have guessed. But thanks for the advice. (tongue placed firmly in cheek).

I'll often do that in this scenario anyway. I'll stop for a coffee and a fag, which lets the group behind catch up and I'll let them play through. At least we won't be seen as the 'slow' group then.

As it happens, I really dislike having the group behind up my chuff, even if the whole course is stacked. But I guess I've got no option but to put up with it.

 

[roccokj]

where were you playing? The junior member could have been me or the other junior with us, although we wouldnt have been affected by it as we both came 1st and 2nd respectively
Obviously, an extremely similar incident happened to me on sunday and the lad was foul mouthing at our group but he was in a two ball so maybe you aren't the lad i know.
Also, i do think you are being a bit too sensitive

 

[SammmeBee]

I played sunday the 4 ball in front were playing each hole between 12 and 15 minutes

Is 4 hours really slow for a 4-ball then?

 

[justagolfer]

I’m so very glad I’m not a member at any club that has you as a member.

 

[justagolfer]

Sorry, a bit new to this. My reply was directed to the one calling himself Smiffy

 

[Fyldewhite]

I played sunday the 4 ball in front were playing each hole between 12 and 15 minutes

Is 4 hours really slow for a 4-ball then?

In short, yes.

We encourage 3 hours 45 as a general target time. On Saturday comps (medal in fourballs) with 8 minute tee times and full from 8:00 till 13:00 we very rarely have rounds over 4 hours. On quieter courses and at quieter times 4 hours is too long and if fewer player saw it as the acceptable norm there wouldn't be half the problems with slow play that there are.

 

[SammmeBee]

I have to agree with you too but the more modern courses do not lend themselves to playing rounds quickly....I fully expect Spey Valley and Castle Stuart next month will be 4.30/4.45 hour jobs at best...

 

[weldmax]

Yeah, I thought this guy was being unreasonable; he shouted his comments without being in full possession of all the facts. I've seen him around the course/club, but fortunately don't know him nor do I want to.
roccokj; I'm pretty sure it wasn't you I was playing with.

 

[JT77]

I think it depends on the course mate. I played at Ramside hall last season, we played 3 ball in medal comps and saturday comps, rarely play 4 man comps there, and 3h30-3h45 was the norm, over 4 hours was slow, but I seen it happen, there was even a 4h30+ round which was a joke I was lucky to have been off well before it!! I think 4 hours for a 4 ball is not too bad but wouldn't like to go too much over it.
I think also when you have comps off 6500+ yards and there are slow players and poss some high handicappers and maybe some folks having a bad day, it all adds up!

 

[USER1999]

Not sure what was wrong with Smiffy's comments. (not sure I like it when he is right). We were on the tee for 30 minutes, with about 5 groups waiting to go out, but no one was allowed to tee off til 12.00. Daft, not utilising the course at all. No one coming round from the 9th. No one had done for 1/2 hour. What was the problem with going out early? What, catch someone up? Not gonna happen.