Slow play - no bloody wonder!

[thecraw]

Had a lovely game of golf today at West Kilbride. Sun was shining, a very gentle breeze, course was in good condition, and the greens excellent. Even getting held up from the 13th I was still round in 2 hours 50 minutes. It really doesn't get better.

Anyway onto my point. As I was about to tee off down the 18th I notice a junior, I would guess about 12 or 13 years of age walking over to the 18th fairway having obviously hooked it off the first tee. As I was almost finished my round and this lad was just starting I waved him on. Big mistake!

This lad wandered over, placed his bag beside his ball then proceeded to walk about 70 yards up and across the fairway to look at the first green then walked back to his bag where he then began jumping up and down like a jack in the box looking for the green that's certainly not moved and quite clearly visible. After completing this weird jumping ritual he then grabs an iron before puting that back and then selects a wood or a hybrid.

Happy with his choice of club he then takes six, yes six practice swings before lining himself up. He then has a couple of waggles before hooking it towards my tee.





I then tee off and as I pass him trudging towards his ball I say "wee man you wouldn't have hooked it like that if you'd only had two practice swings!"


Poor wee soul didn't know what to say or know if I was serious!


If this is the sort of etiquette that juniors are learning and find acceptable, God help the future of golf!


:sbox:

 

[daymond]

Your right. Thank goodness I won't be here to see it.

 

[stevie_r]

He sounds slightly less irritating than the fat git who was in front of me today who (despite clearly having seen me) insisted on playing two balls for several holes.

On broaching the matter near the pond on our 7th he claimed 'but you are allowed to play two balls' - yes pal but not when I'm behind you playing one.

Utter muppet.

 

[DAVEYBOY]

Who knows, he may have knocked his 3rd on and made par :whoo:

The nippers do seem to copy the pros pre shot routines to the extreme

 

[DAVEYBOY]

He sounds slightly less irritating than the fat git who was in front of me today who (despite clearly having seen me) insisted on playing two balls for several holes.

On broaching the matter near the pond on our 7th he claimed 'but you are allowed to play two balls' - yes pal but not when I'm behind you playing one.

Utter muppet.

Ha ha Fat git :rofl:

I ain't heard that for a while, did he woddle?

 

[stevie_r]

Ha ha Fat git :rofl:

I ain't heard that for a while, did he woddle?

Yes, and between practise swings he clearly had to wait for his body to stop oscillating so he could set up again

 

[Iaing]

I bet he gobbed on the green as well! :angry:

 

[thecraw]

I bet he gobbed on the green as well! :angry:

Far too polite for that at WK!

 

[Slab]

Poor wee soul didn't know what to say or know if I was serious!

If this is the sort of etiquette that juniors are learning and find acceptable, God help the future of golf!


:sbox:

mmm seen this on the clubs website, think it explains a few things...

The West Kilbride Golf Club, as befits a Club with a long and distinguished history, has a proud record of welcoming Junior members and has shown itself to be innovative in the running of its Junior Section

To integrate the younglings into the membership & our course the Juniors are expected to leap about a bit prior to taking an approach shot when the green is hidden or the player is partially unsighted. This is required under the guise of a health and safety requirement but in reality it’s just so that a Junior can draw attention to themselves and so feel comfortable playing under the gaze of their elders & betters

There is also a mandatory 5 practice swing minimum in place to really make sure you know what shot you intend to play. Juniors will be asked to comply with this minimum until they realise golf has no Re-start feature like on an X-box or Playstation

Finally if you happened to have your play of any hole waved on by thecraw, don’t do it...Big Mistake!

Enjoy your golf




OK just having a laugh, honest it doesn't say that at all

 

[chrisd]

mmm seen this on the clubs website, think it explains a few things...

The West Kilbride Golf Club, as befits a Club with a long and distinguished history, has a proud record of welcoming Junior members and has shown itself to be innovative in the running of its Junior Section

To integrate the younglings into the membership & our course the Juniors are expected to leap about a bit prior to taking an approach shot when the green is hidden or the player is partially unsighted. This is required under the guise of a health and safety requirement but in reality it’s just so that a Junior can draw attention to themselves and so feel comfortable playing under the gaze of their elders & betters

There is also a mandatory 5 practice swing minimum in place to really make sure you know what shot you intend to play. Juniors will be asked to comply with this minimum until they realise golf has no Re-start feature like on an X-box or Playstation

Finally if you happened to have your play of any hole waved on by thecraw, don’t do it...Big Mistake!

Enjoy your golf




OK just having a laugh, honest it doesn't say that at all

Oh, but don't we all wish it did!!!!!!

 

[CMAC]

He's obviously not the norm or you'd never have done 2hrs 50!

There's people like that in every club but the Jnr organiser needs to be giving etiquette lessons as well.

I just started my wee fella with group lessons and they have whole modules in preparing them how to conduct themselves on a golf course safely and quickly, with an emphasis on respect for others. :whoo:

 

[thecraw]

He's obviously not the norm or you'd never have done 2hrs 50!

There's people like that in every club but the Jnr organiser needs to be giving etiquette lessons as well.

I just started my wee fella with group lessons and they have whole modules in preparing them how to conduct themselves on a golf course safely and quickly, with an emphasis on respect for others. :whoo:

I like this. When I started golf we had inputs from the club captain etc about what's acceptable, what's not, what's expected of a junior and basic rules. The etiquette was explained including club rules and dress codes, areas juniors were allowed and when etc etc.

Now I appreciate that a lot of people will be against this saying it makes golf elitist etc but I disagree, it gives a basic grounding and helps people know the way the club is run and what is acceptable. I think all new members of any club should have an input like this which they must attend irrespective of handicap or ability as all clubs have rules.

Beginners should also have a few holes with the pro or club committee member to ground them in the basics.

 

[DCB]

Craw,

Every year I remind our Juniors of what is and isn't acceptable on the course and in the clubhouse. As the junior convenor, I'm the one who gets the flak from other members if they start to complain about the juniors. A simple refresher at the start of the season is all it needs. Reminding them of the problems of slow play and the need to keep up with the group in front saves a lot of hassle later in the year. Our juniors can use all areas in the clubhouse, but it's still good to remind them of what is and isn't acceptable in the main lounge and dining room areas. It saves them being spotlighted by the steward or other members.

Teach them young and they'll remember for a long time.

 

[bozza]

The only reason the older players don't do this as they have barely got the energy to do 1 practice swing nevermind 6!

 

[patricks148]

Dead right Crawford.

For me the whole etiquette thing is about respect for others on the course, if it be repairing pitch marks or letting other groups though. Sadly consideration for others is getting to be a thing of the past, let’s not make it so on a golf course.

 

[Akie]

For me the whole etiquette thing is about respect for others on the course, if it be repairing pitch marks or letting other groups though. Sadly consideration for others is getting to be a thing of the past, let’s not make it so on a golf course.

Sadly so, recently joined my club and the vice captain said that he went out with another guy to clear the course up and collected 136 empty bottles that people had failed to place in bins. They didn't even get started on fixing the divots that had been left, a real shame.

 

[Ian_S]

I got caught behind a similar 2 ball yesterday. Started on the 10th, teed off when they were on 11th tee. I played up 10 and back down 11 and they were just going to tee off on 12. Sod it, it was quiet behind so I played 10 again. These lads played as you say. Taking an age to pick their shot, then a good number of practice swings then stuffing up the real swing and looking mad about it. As I finished 10 for the second time, I see them lying down on the 12 green to get the line of the putt as though its the last hole of the Open. Needless to say he missed the putt. Utterly mad. Who teaches all this to these lads?

 

[sydney greenstreet]

An idea for the youngsters why not hand out A4 sheets of paper with rules and etiquette questions on it at monthly medals they enter and the one with most correct answers gets a voucher ? give them an interest in it.

 

[Snelly]

Utterly mad. Who teaches all this to these lads?

Mimicry of the professionals unfortunately.

Plus how many golf teachers advocate just pulling a club, picking a line and hitting the ball? Not many. Need to visualise. Need to line up. Need to have three practice swings. Need to compose swing thoughts. Need exact yardage. And afterwards, need an inquest and a repeat swing to try and work out what went wrong.

 

[Ian_S]

Mimicry of the professionals unfortunately.

Very true - and then the only player they make an example of is the 14 year old. They should get rid being 'on the clock' and just penalise slow play. A pro should always be 'on the clock'. That might help.

Mind, on the other hand when they take a few practice swings they don't tend to duff it 100 yards forward and 40 yards left. You can almost get away with it when you take 35 non putting strokes per round - you can't when you're taking 50.