Yosser
Assistant Pro
They know they've hit a bad one, yet don't shout "fore" - disgraceful. They should get a shot penalty for not shouting, its totally unacceptable.
Sick of watching Pro's not shout a warning
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virtuocity
Tour Winner
Fore- a shout of respect, not of weakness.
North Mimms
Tour Winner
Nice one!
Jason Daisycutter
Club Champion
I couldn't agree more, never mind the example they set, it's effin dangerous! Adding shot penalties will never happen, but it should or even better, remove them from the course!
Stuey01
Journeyman Pro
I've noticed a few more giving a shout recently. But they don't all do it, and they all should!
shewy
Journeyman Pro
I'm convinced they do it so they get a favorable bounce of someones head!
HomerJSimpson
Hall of Famer
Never going to happen until someone is injured (god forbid) and makes a successful claim in court. Bound to happen in the US sooner or later and then pros may well consider it or face negligence charge
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Deleted member 17920
Guest
I swear some pros think it's acceptable not too shout FORE and if it hits someone they sign a glove for them and carry on like nothing ever happened, the size of the mound on one guys head was disturbing and for a pro to walk away like they don't care is just pathetic.
Jason Daisycutter
Club Champion
I agree, it's somewhat akin to the premier league footballer attitude of being masters of the universe! Whatever, it disgusts me.
palindromicbob
Tour Winner
From what I saw at the Irish open marshals on the tee indicated direction, marshals on the course kept an eye out. I heard pro's shout fore and crowd ignore the shout. I heard marshals shout fore and the crowd ignore the shout.
I saw a few people get hit with fore being shouted and when it wasn't. I saw people protect/fail to protect themselves both when fore was shouted and when it wasn't.
The difference. Those that protected themselves were always paying attention to what was going on. Those that did not protect themselves were not paying attention to anything that was going on.
A shout will not stop people getting hit. Nor will it always cause people in a crowd to pay attention. In some cases it can be difficult to here the shout at 300 yards when everyone around you is chatting or moving around to follow a group.
My only frustration about pros not shouting fore is that this then filters down into the amateur game. More and more I see people standing on the tee and indicate direction but fail to shout.
I saw a few people get hit with fore being shouted and when it wasn't. I saw people protect/fail to protect themselves both when fore was shouted and when it wasn't.
The difference. Those that protected themselves were always paying attention to what was going on. Those that did not protect themselves were not paying attention to anything that was going on.
A shout will not stop people getting hit. Nor will it always cause people in a crowd to pay attention. In some cases it can be difficult to here the shout at 300 yards when everyone around you is chatting or moving around to follow a group.
My only frustration about pros not shouting fore is that this then filters down into the amateur game. More and more I see people standing on the tee and indicate direction but fail to shout.
HawkeyeMS
Ryder Cup Winner
There are definately more shouts recently than there have been.
HawkeyeMS
Ryder Cup Winner
:thup:
I was discussing this on Twitter over the last few days due to the worse example I had witnessed for some time from Gary Woodland, who on his 1st tee shot sliced it that bad he shuffled across the tee box watching it intensely heading for the crowds, no shout of Fore even though he never took his eyes off it all the way until it came down well outside and over where people were standing to the side of the fairway to where people were sitting on the grass and a child running around!
I think a shout of Fore from the player should be mandatory and then as we see, a marshal behind holds up a placard up displaying its going right which in-turn a marshal further down the fairway sees and also shouts Fore to the nearby crowds.
Its not difficult, or do we need to wait for the worse case scenario to happen first before something is put in place!
I think a shout of Fore from the player should be mandatory and then as we see, a marshal behind holds up a placard up displaying its going right which in-turn a marshal further down the fairway sees and also shouts Fore to the nearby crowds.
Its not difficult, or do we need to wait for the worse case scenario to happen first before something is put in place!
Imurg
The Grinder Of Pars (Semi Crocked)
This.....
Of course they should shout
But, in reality, does it make a difference if they don't..?
Probably not...it just filters down to the amateur game.
If you're at a tournament, and paying attention, you're unlikely to get hit.
300+ yards from the tee there's lots of mumbling, talking and other noises.
If they did shout you would only have a couple of seconds to do something about it - it would take a second or 2 for the player to finish his swing, work out where the ball is going and make a shout....it then takes a second for it to get to you, 300 yards away. It takes you a second to hear it and another second to work out where the shout is from and start reacting.
That's 5 secnds gone and the ball is only in the air for 7 or 8....
So if you're not paying attention you're likely to get hit.
Pay attention and you may see the ball flight, the Marshall's sign or the wave of the club from the player....
But they should still shout...
G1BB0
Money List Winner
stand at 280, not much chance of getting hit then bar a few of the old duffers (and Donald) 
I have to admit that I do sometimes rely on playing partners, I am known for not picking up my ball flight off the tee. Pro's I dont think have any excuse if not just a matter of doing it for the sake of doing it (good form and all that).
If Tiger clocked me on the swede I would want more than a signed glove aswell
I have to admit that I do sometimes rely on playing partners, I am known for not picking up my ball flight off the tee. Pro's I dont think have any excuse if not just a matter of doing it for the sake of doing it (good form and all that).
If Tiger clocked me on the swede I would want more than a signed glove aswell
North Mimms
Tour Winner
This is the main reason I think Pros should still shout, regardless that 300 yards away some might not be paying attention.
I play on a compact course where errant shots will hit neighbouring fairways. Most of our members are better at shouting than they are hitting straight!
HarryMonk
Challenge Tour Pro
Course Marshall's signal to one another where the ball is going and the fairway Marshall keeps the crowd informed(or should), but if you are down the fairway watching the drive you should see it coming
chrisd
Major Champion
Tigers just laid someone out off the first. Glove signed and a smile, I didn't see a warning!
Penalties are right for not shouting, it's the only way to save someone from serious injury some day!
Penalties are right for not shouting, it's the only way to save someone from serious injury some day!
Whee
Challenge Tour Pro
PHP:
I thought that was what I'd just seen. Commentary team have made no mention of it at all!
FairwayDodger
Money List Winner
I take slight issue with that, it's not always easy to pick up the ball flight off the tee even if you are watching. That was my experience at a pro tournament last year... watch the swing, fail to spot the ball flight so look up the fairway for it landing. Would really appreciate a shout if it was heading for me!
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