Selection of Vice Captain

[Green Man]

I'm interested in how other clubs select their Vice Captain and therefore the following years Captain.

At our club it was always left to the current Vice Captain to choose his Vice for the year he would be Captain. The selection was then confirmed by the committee but this was always a formality.

This year however there has been a change. Because of the equality act any member can put their name down to be Vice Captain and the selection will be made by member vote at the AGM. It this normal at other clubs?

The reason I ask is that I can see this leading to all sorts of problems if the Captain and Vice Captain don't get on.

 

[Duckster]

Vice Captain as in Captain Elect?

Ours is picked through the current and past Captains putting forward names of people they think qualify for the role. This is the discussed at their away day where the evening consists of the voting.

Seems to work quite well.

 

[Green Man]

Vice Captain as in Captain Elect?

Ours is picked through the current and past Captains putting forward names of people they think qualify for the role. This is the discussed at their away day where the evening consists of the voting.

Seems to work quite well.

Yes, sorry for not been clear. Vice Captain is the Captain elect for the next year.

Interesting how it is done at your club. Seems a good idea. But does this not make it open to all which we are being told it has to be?

 

[louise_a]

In our section the ex captains decide. Our men's section is different and to be honest it's a stupid way to do it. They don't have a captain elect, they decide who is going to be captain during the winter.

As a result, this coming season the AGM has had to be brought forward 2 weeks because the new captain will be on holiday, also the drive in , which is usually held before our opening mixed competition, is now being done on the Saturday morning following the AGM. Our new lady captain will not be in office and she does not want to drive in at 7.30am before a men's shotgun. But of course she was never consulted!'

 

[Duckster]

Yes, sorry for not been clear. Vice Captain is the Captain elect for the next year.

Interesting how it is done at your club. Seems a good idea. But does this not make it open to all which we are being told it has to be?

It is open to all. Anyone can put their name forward if they so wish but it's better to be nominated. Yes there are a few clicks and a few person's who resemble the pointy part of Big Ben, however there's only been one (I can't say poor) "slightly not as good as others" Captain since I've been a member.

Generally they are looking at people who have put a bit of effort into the club off their own back. For example, our current Captain has been looking after the juniors for many years. Our current Captain Elect (Bluewolf, it's Phil J!!) has done many years of helping comps, doing the cards, being on every committee going etc.... and never asked for anything in return.

 

[Green Bay Hacker]

At ours, I believe the committee put names forward, the captain then approaches said names and eventually one will accept.

 

[fundy]

Down to the incoming captain to choose his vice captain and try and persuade him to take the job, then ratified (formality) by the committee. Lately been a trend of quite a few people turning the offer down (myself included)

 

[Green Bay Hacker]

Down to the incoming captain to choose his vice captain and try and persuade him to take the job, then ratified (formality) by the committee. Lately been a trend of quite a few people turning the offer down (myself included)

I've turned it down twice due to work commitments. Probably won't be asked again as the new kids are in town now.

 

[bladeplayer]

Down to the incoming captain to choose his vice captain and try and persuade him to take the job, then ratified (formality) by the committee. Lately been a trend of quite a few people turning the offer down (myself included)

exactly this without the last 2 words

 

[Green Man]

Down to the incoming captain to choose his vice captain and try and persuade him to take the job, then ratified (formality) by the committee. Lately been a trend of quite a few people turning the offer down (myself included)

This was exactly what was happening at our club but apparantly we're not allowed to do this anymore. I don't agree with the new way at all. I wonder if in the future there will be a captains preferred candidate and most will go with the selection when it comes to the vote.

 

[nickjdavis]

At our place it is The Captains choice, which is then ratified by the club owners.

 

[JohnnyDee]

We have a conclave of the immediate 4 past captains who come up with some names. This is debated before they settle on a first choice. That person then gets sounded out by the current Captain and if agreeable become the Vice Captain for the following year. This in turn designates them as Captain elect for the following year.

Ascendency to Captain is not automatic however as the board can deselect the person for whatever extenuating circumstances could possibly occur,

However I don't believe this option has ever been implemented at ours in its nearly 100 years.

 

[Robster59]

At our club, the current captain chooses the vice captain elect. This means that mate can't ask mate as the current captain doesn't choose his immediate successor. He may consult the current vice captain about his choice. The Vice Captain elect is announced at the December Turkey Trot but this has to be approved by the members at the AGM.

 

[Deleted member 17920]

We have a few members from the committee and the general manager.

they have a meeting then write to the person they want to offer the role.

 

[Maninblack4612]

Because of the equality act any member can put their name down to be Vice Captain and the selection will be made by member vote at the AGM. It this normal at other clubs?

I don't really understand this. This is the way it's done at my club, anyone can be proposed & seconded as Vice Captain. However, in practice, the Vice Captain is chosen by the present Captain, with the agreement of the committee. It is considered "bad form" to propose anyone in opposition to the committee's choice & this hasn't happened in at least 50 years.

 

[HawkeyeMS]

This was exactly what was happening at our club but apparantly we're not allowed to do this anymore. I don't agree with the new way at all. I wonder if in the future there will be a captains preferred candidate and most will go with the selection when it comes to the vote.

What is the new way Homer?

 

[patricks148]

the newly elected captain selects the vice, which them has to be agreed at the AGM. I think there was an indecent in the past where one was selected and the AGM voted against them. Also the guy that has been vice captain has to get agreement from the AGM to take on the role of Captain. so even though they have been vice for 2 years there is no guarantee that they will become Captain.

 

[Beezerk]

Not sure at our place, just seems to be the "old pals act" or something.
This years vice captain is a right twisty bugger, proper miserable sod with about as much grace as a dog turd, then again, this years captain was similar

 

[Maninblack4612]

Not sure at our place, just seems to be the "old pals act" or something.
This years vice captain is a right twisty bugger, proper miserable sod with about as much grace as a dog turd, then again, this years captain was similar

You should really stop pussyfooting around & say what you mean. I hope that the Captain, VC or any of their mates aren't on this Forum.

 

[GB72]

Captain chooses vice captain and the committee ratifies. Hate this set up as it just means that the club captain is always drawn from the same clique.