Scottish Fitba'

#2,301
SwingsitlikeHogan

SwingsitlikeHogan

Major Champion
#2,301
Joined
Jul 24, 2012
Messages
27,768
Disappointing. Celtic..OK…losing by the odd goal in 7 is no great failure…though blowing a two goal lead is never good. But Rangers losing at home by two and not scoring…does not bode well.
 
#2,303
SwingsitlikeHogan

SwingsitlikeHogan

Major Champion
#2,303
Joined
Jul 24, 2012
Messages
27,768
KenL said:
True but playing a far better team in both cases.
Click to expand...
So it would seem…but let’s not blame the rest of Scottish football. It is what it has to be and can only be. It’s up to the OF to recognise that they must raise their game when playing European football, and to be able to do it.

Rangers players and team celebrated wildly when they went 2-1 up against St Johnstone last weekend - the game finishing that way. With StJ struggles and failings in the lower echelons of European football these last few weeks the warning bells should have been ringing loud and clear. This is not to dismiss the quality of StJ in Scottish context, but to point it out in the context of Europe.

Truth is…I don’t know what the answer is for the OF. Maybe they can only just plough on and do their best. That said I do wish them well for what is to come in their European campaigns this year.
 
#2,304
KenL

KenL

Tour Rookie
#2,304
Joined
Dec 3, 2014
Messages
4,436
Location
East Lothian
SwingsitlikeHogan said:
So it would seem…but let’s not blame the rest of Scottish football. It is what it has to be and can only be. It’s up to the OF to recognise that they must raise their game when playing European football, and to be able to do it.

Rangers players and team celebrated wildly when they went 2-1 up against St Johnstone last weekend - the game finishing that way. With StJ struggles and failings in the lower echelons of European football these last few weeks the warning bells should have been ringing loud and clear. This is not to dismiss the quality of StJ in Scottish context, but to point it out in the context of Europe.

Truth is…I don’t know what the answer is for the OF. Maybe they can only just plough on and do their best. That said I do wish them well for what is to come in their European campaigns this year.
Click to expand...
Who's blaming Scottish football?🤔
 
#2,305
Slab

Slab

Money List Winner
#2,305
Joined
Nov 20, 2011
Messages
8,988
Location
Port Louis
SwingsitlikeHogan said:
So it would seem…but let’s not blame the rest of Scottish football. It is what it has to be and can only be. .
Click to expand...
agreed, rangers can barely keep a clean sheet in the spfl so it should be no surprise they cant do it in Europe either

I'dve thought the ideal prep to win in Europe is don't concede goals in the regular games ;)
 
#2,306
SwingsitlikeHogan

SwingsitlikeHogan

Major Champion
#2,306
Joined
Jul 24, 2012
Messages
27,768
KenL said:
Who's blaming Scottish football?🤔
Click to expand...
We have heard it enough in the past with OF soundings about a North Sea (or whatever) European league…or indeed just the suggestions that the regular Scottish league is insufficient prep for Europe - though this is true to some extent.

@Slab makes good point. The Rangers defence was pretty shambolic when MO’H waltzed through it for StJs goal last weekend. So, for instance, it’s all very well and good for Tavernier to score a cracker…but his #1 role is in defence.
 
#2,307
KenL

KenL

Tour Rookie
#2,307
Joined
Dec 3, 2014
Messages
4,436
Location
East Lothian
I think fans might have said this, not sure about the clubs.
The proposed euro leagues are about income, especially from TV. Current Sky, BT contracts for Scottish football are a joke.
Rangers and Celtic on every week as there is next to no interest or audience when anyone else is on.
 
#2,308
SwingsitlikeHogan

SwingsitlikeHogan

Major Champion
#2,308
Joined
Jul 24, 2012
Messages
27,768
KenL said:
I think fans might have said this, not sure about the clubs.
The proposed euro leagues are about income, especially from TV. Current Sky, BT contracts for Scottish football are a joke.
Rangers and Celtic on every week as there is next to no interest or audience when anyone else is on.
Click to expand...
Indeed. And yes … the thinking of many of the fans… hmmm. Though Rangers and Celtic have the riches of Croesus compared with the rest of Scottish football and should, you’d think, be able to attract players of significant and sufficient European experience to see them OK in European matches. Anyway. As said - not having a go at the OF as I want them to do well to raise the profile of Scottish football.
 
#2,309
KenL

KenL

Tour Rookie
#2,309
Joined
Dec 3, 2014
Messages
4,436
Location
East Lothian
SwingsitlikeHogan said:
Indeed. Though Rangers and Celtic have the riches of Croesus compared with the rest of Scottish football and should, you’d think, be able to attract players of significant and sufficient European experience to see them OK in European matches. Anyway. As said - not having a go at the OF as I want them to do well to raise the profile of Scottish football.
Click to expand...
Rangers have done really well in Europe in the last couple of years and Celtic have done well prior to that.
Now they are being written off after one game!
 
#2,310
Lord Tyrion

Lord Tyrion

Money List Winner
#2,310
Joined
Sep 9, 2014
Messages
21,202
Location
Northumberland
SwingsitlikeHogan said:
Indeed. And yes … the thinking of many of the fans… hmmm. Though Rangers and Celtic have the riches of Croesus compared with the rest of Scottish football and should, you’d think, be able to attract players of significant and sufficient European experience to see them OK in European matches. Anyway. As said - not having a go at the OF as I want them to do well to raise the profile of Scottish football.
Click to expand...
Riches of Croesus compared to the rest of Scottish football but comparative paupers compared to the rest of Europe. Football is a money game on the whole. Every so often a club develops a group of players eg Ajax, that have been brought through but for most of the time money talks and the OF don't have enough of it. That is the reality.
 
#2,311
ger147

ger147

Tour Winner
#2,311
Joined
Jun 5, 2013
Messages
4,712
Location
Cumbernauld
SwingsitlikeHogan said:
Indeed. And yes … the thinking of many of the fans… hmmm. Though Rangers and Celtic have the riches of Croesus compared with the rest of Scottish football and should, you’d think, be able to attract players of significant and sufficient European experience to see them OK in European matches. Anyway. As said - not having a go at the OF as I want them to do well to raise the profile of Scottish football.
Click to expand...
How was St Johnstone's training on Thursday, seen as they didn't have a game...
 
#2,314
ger147

ger147

Tour Winner
#2,314
Joined
Jun 5, 2013
Messages
4,712
Location
Cumbernauld
SwingsitlikeHogan said:
It would have been hard work…trying to blend the sublime skills and technique of Efe Ambrose into our defensive system 🙄. But hey…you never know…
Click to expand...
You should spend more time keeping up to date with your own team instead of pretending to be interested in the whole of Scottish football so you can have as many digs as you can at Rangers and Celtic, then you would know (y)
 
#2,315
SwingsitlikeHogan

SwingsitlikeHogan

Major Champion
#2,315
Joined
Jul 24, 2012
Messages
27,768
ger147 said:
You should spend more time keeping up to date with your own team instead of pretending to be interested in the whole of Scottish football so you can have as many digs as you can at Rangers and Celtic, then you would know (y)
Click to expand...
Unnecessary dig. I thought I have made it clear that in the context of Europe I actually care about the fortunes of the OF - I am not pretending. Which seems more than can be said about many OF supporters about the fortunes of the rest of Scottish football, including the international team - about which they don‘t even pretend to care. And that’s a great pity. Maybe some OF supporters don’t understand that their team need not be the be all and end all of it, and that some supporters of ‘diddy’ clubs might have a less blinkered view.
 
#2,316
ger147

ger147

Tour Winner
#2,316
Joined
Jun 5, 2013
Messages
4,712
Location
Cumbernauld
SwingsitlikeHogan said:
Unnecessary dig. I thought I have made it clear that in the context of Europe I actually care about the fortunes of the OF - I am not pretending. Which seems more than can be said about many OF supporters about the fortunes of the rest of Scottish football, including the international team - about which they don‘t even pretend to care. And that’s a great pity. Maybe some OF supporters don’t understand that their team need not be the be all and end all of it, and that some supporters of ‘diddy’ clubs might have a less blinkered view.
Click to expand...
Not unnecessary at all as the rest of your post CLEARLY illustrates i.e. yet ANOTHER dig at fans of Rangers and Celtic!! You are really are a sad, pathetic little man aren't you? It must have been a very long and sad life for you lugging about that chip on your shoulder...

As for you describing yourself as less blinkered...:ROFLMAO::ROFLMAO::ROFLMAO::ROFLMAO::ROFLMAO::ROFLMAO:
 
#2,320
toyboy54

toyboy54

Challenge Tour Pro
#2,320
Joined
Jul 2, 2008
Messages
1,670
Location
outskirts...glasgow&paisley
SwingsitlikeHogan said:
Whatever..
Click to expand...
Now, now children!
A bit of decorum please--after all, what would the neighbours think??
What's the answer to poor displays/ results?--Play more games?...practise HARDER?study foreign teams more closely?-tactics/ formations?
I have no instant fix, do any of you??
Can we ( even ) pay continental teams to take some of our players/ youth teamers to train with them for a year/two years-I don't know:unsure:
OR, are we just pish and occasionally lucky??
 
You must log in or register to reply here.
Top