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Saw this yesterday.

I've read it loads of times and still can't quite believe why he wasn't sacked on the spot after coming out with this.

Bearing in mind this is U19 football where, IMO, the focus should all be about development of skills he sounds like a dinosaur.

"I've gone for a physical side and runners".

What sort of message does that send to young players on what's important!!???

http://m.stv.tv/sport/football/inte...r-is-a-luxury-player-says-scotland-u19-coach/
 
NWJocko said:
Saw this yesterday.

I've read it loads of times and still can't quite believe why he wasn't sacked on the spot after coming out with this.

Bearing in mind this is U19 football where, IMO, the focus should all be about development of skills he sounds like a dinosaur.

"I've gone for a physical side and runners".

What sort of message does that send to young players on what's important!!???

http://m.stv.tv/sport/football/inte...r-is-a-luxury-player-says-scotland-u19-coach/
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Absolutely - I read that he's not playing Jack Harper (he who plays for a Real Madrid youth team) because the lad is a 'luxury' player - He may be given free rein to go wherever he wants by Real Madrid - but that doesn't work for Scotland U19s where a more disciplined approach is required.

Takes me back to the days when there was call for Kenny Dalglish to be dropped by Scotland because he wasn't delivering! Kenny's problem was that the rest of the Scotland team weren't on the same plane as him and so couldn't read what genius he was about to come up with next - and so their lesser abilities made Kenny look like the one at fault.
 
I heard a youth coach from Holland talking on the radio 2-3 years ago. The interviewer was very jovial because both England and Scotland had done well in recent friendlies and he asked if losing to those teams was an issue for future Dutch teams. No, was the very emphatic reply. He then went on to explain how the physicality of British teams meant that they were very strong at youth level. European youth teams concentrated more on skill and technique. As the kids became young men the physical side levelled out as the European lads caught up. However, their greater emphasis on technique started to show through and they then started to pull away from the British teams. Short term gain for the Brits, long term pain. It seems nothing has changed, little has been learnt.

It is hugely depressing that the man in charge of bringing through Scottish talent is still stuck in the 70's.
 
I was talking about this the other day and its just not an issue in football, Scotland has loads of talent at youth level that never seems to develop. The under 20's rugby team perform out there skin reguarly, just shows that there needs to be a clear out of antiquated coaching methods and let the youth players come through. England are a prime example, if you're good enough you're old enough to play at any level
 
NWJocko said:
Saw this yesterday.

I've read it loads of times and still can't quite believe why he wasn't sacked on the spot after coming out with this.

Bearing in mind this is U19 football where, IMO, the focus should all be about development of skills he sounds like a dinosaur.

"I've gone for a physical side and runners".

What sort of message does that send to young players on what's important!!???

http://m.stv.tv/sport/football/inte...r-is-a-luxury-player-says-scotland-u19-coach/
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Seems like a strange decision but I am sure the coach has his reasons.
I can see both sides.
I am sure the Real lad does not attend training sessions and training games with the rest of the squad.
 
Doon frae Troon said:
Seems like a strange decision but I am sure the coach has his reasons.
I can see both sides.
I am sure the Real lad does not attend training sessions and training games with the rest of the squad.
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Why wouldn't he attend the trainjng sessions if selected in the squad ?!
 
Doon frae Troon said:
Seems like a strange decision but I am sure the coach has his reasons.
I can see both sides.
I am sure the Real lad does not attend training sessions and training games with the rest of the squad.
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I know he has his reasons, that what I have an issue with.

This is U19 football. Development football to all intents and purposes. If we have someone in charge of a development squad that can't find room for someone with the ability to play as a #10 in a Real Madrid development team because he wants a physical side with runners we might aswell give up hope now.

Focus should be on using this lads ability as much as possible, not replacing him with some cart horse who can't pass water but can run all day!!!!
 
It's an absolute joke and why Scottish football is the backwater that it is! I'm in my early 30's but even when I was a youth it was all about height and strength and it seems nothing has changed!

Wouldn't be surprised if the lad chose Spain now.
 
NWJocko said:
I know he has his reasons, that what I have an issue with.

This is U19 football. Development football to all intents and purposes. If we have someone in charge of a development squad that can't find room for someone with the ability to play as a #10 in a Real Madrid development team because he wants a physical side with runners we might aswell give up hope now.

Focus should be on using this lads ability as much as possible, not replacing him with some cart horse who can't pass water but can run all day!!!!
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Completely correct. Equally if I was Gordon Strachan I would make clear to the U'19 that the result is not everything. I would want to see progress and an improvement in skill, technique and quality. If that means you lose 3-0 then so what. They need to prepare better players, not fitter players. Only then will Scotland start to take on the better teams with more than just "bravery and heart". The likes of Denmark, similar population, have spells of qualifying and competing so there is no reason why Scotland can not match them.
 
Lord Tyrion said:
I heard a youth coach from Holland talking on the radio 2-3 years ago. The interviewer was very jovial because both England and Scotland had done well in recent friendlies and he asked if losing to those teams was an issue for future Dutch teams. No, was the very emphatic reply. He then went on to explain how the physicality of British teams meant that they were very strong at youth level. European youth teams concentrated more on skill and technique. As the kids became young men the physical side levelled out as the European lads caught up. However, their greater emphasis on technique started to show through and they then started to pull away from the British teams. Short term gain for the Brits, long term pain. It seems nothing has changed, little has been learnt.

It is hugely depressing that the man in charge of bringing through Scottish talent is still stuck in the 70's.
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Yep, and we've known this for years and still persevere with the same old short term thinking. Laughable really.
 
c1973 said:
Yep, and we've known this for years and still persevere with the same old short term thinking. Laughable really.
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I think I'm more angry with the SFA for employing him and condoning this sort of rubbish.

Must be music to Strachan's ears the "development" that's going on in the age groups.....

Interested to see if McClair makes any difference, I'd have Sbragia out on his ear now for that.
 
Ach well - up tonight the over19s take on the boys from Northern Ireland. Really looking forward to seeing how Stevie May manages - come on Stevie.
 
NWJocko said:
I think I'm more angry with the SFA for employing him and condoning this sort of rubbish.

Must be music to Strachan's ears the "development" that's going on in the age groups.....

Interested to see if McClair makes any difference, I'd have Sbragia out on his ear now for that.
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I had to laugh at the 'wanting more height' part of his utterance. The lad is 6 foot 1.
 
Liverpoolphil said:
And ?

Why would that mean he wouldn't take part in the trainjng sessions if selected ?
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I'm not sure how often the under 19's train together but I have an extended family member in the under 16 squad and they seem to train and play on a regular basis.
Based in Spain would be a bit of a strain I would have thought, his development would probably be more beneficial staying put than traveling to play Dumbarton on a cold wet February night.
 
Doon frae Troon said:
I'm not sure how often the under 19's train together but I have an extended family member in the under 16 squad and they seem to train and play on a regular basis.
Based in Spain would be a bit of a strain I would have thought, his development would probably be more beneficial staying put than traveling to play Dumbarton on a cold wet February night.
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Again that doesn't answer your initial post of him not training with the squad

Under 19 im led to bekieve fall under the same FIFA rules as U21 and full so if the player was selected would have to turn up along with the others
 
Doon frae Troon said:
I'm not sure how often the under 19's train together but I have an extended family member in the under 16 squad and they seem to train and play on a regular basis.
Based in Spain would be a bit of a strain I would have thought, his development would probably be more beneficial staying put than traveling to play Dumbarton on a cold wet February night.
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Not for the first time Doon you have no idea what you're dribbling on about.

Read the article. Tournament is in Austria.

I played u16's, light years difference to 19's in terms of how often you play and train.
 
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