Doon frae Troon
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I don't know about the rest of you fellas, but more injuries and blood was spilled in the annual hockey match against the girls.
School Rugby
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Eh ? 
Is there a link missing or something else
Is there a link missing or something else
Beezerk
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Eh ?
Is there a link missing or something else
Summat about trying to ban contact in school rugby games.
User20205
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a Dr has written a report calling for tackling to be banned for all under 18 rugby, because of the risk of injury
May as well give up and all play soccer
May as well give up and all play soccer
Jensen
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Ridiculous it's all part of the game. How an earth can you only have contact after 18, it's in these early years when you learn the fundamentals
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I have now seen the report - ridiculous idea which will not be implemented
The PE teachers need to be good rugby coaches and, I feel, all school kids should wear skull caps. Otherwise, get on with it.
Val
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Take the tackling out of the kids game and you would bet better admitting defeat. You learn to tackle when you are young, your technique evolves as you get older
upsidedown
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Spot on Bri
FairwayDodger
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It's tempting to suggest that this is nothing more than a further example of modern kids getting wrapped in cotton wool but there are some serious issues that need to be addressed. Here's a sensible analysis from Tom English
http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/rugby-union/35706674
http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/rugby-union/35706674
Ian_Bristol
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Next they will be saying no punching in boxing.
Norrin Radd
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Fyldewhite
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Think there's a case for touch rugby only for younger kids and another good point I heard today was to match kids by weight rather than age. To ban all tackling under 18 is clearly ridiculous in my book. May as well ban the sport and be done with it if it's that dangerous.
GB72
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The report is by someone with a known axe to grind on the subject and is supported by 'doctors' many of whom are not medical practitioners and a number of whom are not from the UK. Rugby training needs improvement but tackling etc should not be banned. If you want to talk to someone about the dangers and benefits of rugby, talk to Matt Hampson who, despite his terrible injuries, helps with scrimmaging teaching. Sport carries risks but the benefit far outweighs it. If a parent objects to a sport there is normally another option
ScienceBoy
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I do think school rugby needs looking at and possibly introducing contact a lot slower than at proper rugby clubs.
Having really taken an interest in this article and listened to the arguemenrts I find myslelf agreeing with a lot that is being said.
Firstly it is good that club rugby is not the subject. Club players are on the whole more experienced and contact rules should remain as they are.
School matches however probably need to introduce the contact later, often there are less experienced players in the team who can be a danger to themselves and others, unless the school has a good coach and structure like mine did. Even we did have some less experienced players in the team however.
In PE lessons it should be touch only, it's a great way to introduce the game.
I say get the children into proper clubs, play the club game as iris and keep school games where skill and experience gaps are bigger to non-contact.
I am really torn here but I speak from experience and personal view, I've seen the mismatch and the risk it adds. I also played rugby from year 6 to university level and on into my mid 20s, I played both school and club and loved them both.
Club games as Kid were brutal and a gulf away from most school games, playing for both I saw the difference. I felt safer in the club games as inexperienced players were unpredictable and I trusted them less.
So yes make school games safer, get more kids into club rugby and build experience there. School games are just for lighthearted competition and a route into the game proper.
Having really taken an interest in this article and listened to the arguemenrts I find myslelf agreeing with a lot that is being said.
Firstly it is good that club rugby is not the subject. Club players are on the whole more experienced and contact rules should remain as they are.
School matches however probably need to introduce the contact later, often there are less experienced players in the team who can be a danger to themselves and others, unless the school has a good coach and structure like mine did. Even we did have some less experienced players in the team however.
In PE lessons it should be touch only, it's a great way to introduce the game.
I say get the children into proper clubs, play the club game as iris and keep school games where skill and experience gaps are bigger to non-contact.
I am really torn here but I speak from experience and personal view, I've seen the mismatch and the risk it adds. I also played rugby from year 6 to university level and on into my mid 20s, I played both school and club and loved them both.
Club games as Kid were brutal and a gulf away from most school games, playing for both I saw the difference. I felt safer in the club games as inexperienced players were unpredictable and I trusted them less.
So yes make school games safer, get more kids into club rugby and build experience there. School games are just for lighthearted competition and a route into the game proper.
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GB72
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This is also not new, Dr Pollock crops up around 6 Nations time most years. This was a previous, evidenced, rebuttal
http://blogs.bmj.com/bjsm/2010
http://blogs.bmj.com/bjsm/2010
HomerJSimpson
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I only played rugby under sufferance at school and for as short a period of time as I could but how much difference is there in the coaching the kids get in PE/games and that they'd get at a proper rugby club. I was never convinced we received the best coaching and our teachers were jack of all trades trying to teach the basics to the masses. I would prefer to see some compromises in a school environment but feel that kids under the auspices of a rugby club should be allowed to play the game in its proper form and learn and develop their skills
Doon frae Troon
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Wise words Science Guy.
Strangely enough my grandson was concussed at his last club rugby training session.
He was inactive at the time and tripped over on of those small saucer like cones and buried his head into the gym floor.
An anxious night in hospital and he was given the OK.
Accidents can happen anytime, anywhere and you cannot wrap your kids up in cotton wool.
ScienceBoy
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I think you might have concussion...
I learned my rugby from 11 yrs old at a school in Wales, when Welsh rugby was at its very best. We had a great PE teacher/coach. The early lessons were about how to fall, and then how to tackle at walking pace. Each lesson finished with touch rugby. Then it was a match at half pace, including tackling. Anyone running was sin binned for 5 mins.
3 or 4 weeks before we played full rugby, and even then matches were often stopped for reminders of how to tackle.
My two fractured skulls and broken neck were received when I was playing club rugby in my 20's and 30's. The game is never without risk, but learning it properly does mitigate the risks.
3 or 4 weeks before we played full rugby, and even then matches were often stopped for reminders of how to tackle.
My two fractured skulls and broken neck were received when I was playing club rugby in my 20's and 30's. The game is never without risk, but learning it properly does mitigate the risks.
