Sand save, scramble, chips

[Scouser]

Quick question

Im looking at using a piece of scoring software tomorrow and it records sand chips and chip shots. I take it you only record sand chips that are from bunkers around the green and if you use a putter from off the green this would count as a chip???

Also what is a scramble?


Cheers

 

[G_Mulligan]

I could be wrong but I believe scrambling is getting the ball up and down to save par.

That is what I refer to it as anyway

 

[Scouser]

Ill never record one of the then....I am right with the recording of sand chips and the use of the putter though?

 

[JamesS]

I generally count a putter shot from off the green as a putt. Only chips with an iron are scrambles (up and downs).

That is how it is defined in the software program I use:

Chart My Golf

They have a golfing terms page you might want to check out.

If I do not understand anything I just contact them and ask. They reply quite quickly.

 

[Scouser]

I generally count a putter shot from off the green as a putt. Only chips with an iron are scrambles (up and downs).

That is how it is defined in the software program I use:

Chart My Golf

They have a golfing terms page you might want to check out.

If I do not understand anything I just contact them and ask. They reply quite quickly.

Cheers James ill have a read...i contacted them last week they have not replied

 

[HawkeyeMS]

I generally count a putter shot from off the green as a putt. Only chips with an iron are scrambles (up and downs).

That is how it is defined in the software program I use:

Chart My Golf

They have a golfing terms page you might want to check out.

If I do not understand anything I just contact them and ask. They reply quite quickly.

Shots from off the putting surface are counted as chips, regardless of what club you use.

The definition of a scramble is making par when you miss the green in regulation, again, it makes no odds what club you use, if you miss the green and make par it's a scramble. That's why most stats software knows that if you record a par and have 2 putts, you hit the green in regulation.

 

[JamesS]

Cheers James ill have a read...i contacted them last week they have not replied

I contacted them tonight about something else and they already replied to me. Try again.

 

[Scouser]

Sorry I should have said I use a different piece of software

 

[JamesS]

I generally count a putter shot from off the green as a putt. Only chips with an iron are scrambles (up and downs).

That is how it is defined in the software program I use:

Chart My Golf

They have a golfing terms page you might want to check out.

If I do not understand anything I just contact them and ask. They reply quite quickly.

Shots from off the putting surface are counted as chips, regardless of what club you use.

The definition of a scramble is making par when you miss the green in regulation, again, it makes no odds what club you use, if you miss the green and make par it's a scramble. That's why most stats software knows that if you record a par and have 2 putts, you hit the green in regulation.

You are right HawkeyeMS. Here is the definition from Chart My Golf:

Up An Downs


This is a measure of the consistency with which you hole out within 2 shots when you land just off the green with your approach shot.

When you miss the green with your approach shot, but do not land in a greenside bunker, you will still be aiming to get into the hole within 2 shots using an iron/putter and then your putter. If you can get into the hole from this greenside location within 2 shots you record a yes on this hole for Up and Downs. If you take 3 shots or more you record a no. If you hit the green with your approach shot you record a no-score.

Up and downs are then presented as a percentage of successes against failures, just like fairways hit.

 

[HomerJSimpson]

If you are looking for software to record all these stat then scoresaver 2 would be my tip. It'll tell you everything you need to know about how well you scramble, putt and escape from the sand

 

[RGDave]

Is it possible to scramble a bogey?

I'm sure I've heard the expression just to suggest getting up and down regardless. (Less used of course, and certainly not by pros, I guess?)

I'm intrigued by the whole sand-chip thing?

 

[Scouser]

Cheers fir the tip Hommer

I already have the software on my BB phone though ....and yes I know its not comp legal....but then hey I aint a comp player

 

[HomerJSimpson]

Is it possible to scramble a bogey?

I'm sure I've heard the expression just to suggest getting up and down regardless. (Less used of course, and certainly not by pros, I guess?)

I'm intrigued by the whole sand-chip thing?

Dave

An up and down is an up and down whether you've taken two or ten shots to get to the edge of the green. It is the same with the whole putting thing which is only strokes on the green so a putt from the fringe is the same as a chip That is why pros only average 20 something putts per round. They either chip stone dead or putt it from off the green

 

[RGDave]

....whole putting thing which is only strokes on the green so a putt from the fringe is the same as a chip That is why pros only average 20 something putts per round. They either chip stone dead or putt it from off the green

I never knew that. So if a pro missed 9/18 greens, went round level par and 2-putted all the greens he missed from the fringe, he'd go down for 27 putts?

(I know you know what I mean)....is that right?

 

[Imurg]

Yep that's right.
I think Cink went round in 25 the other week. Doesn't Pavin hold the record of 19 or something ridiculous like that?
Miss most GIR, chip'n'putt for 1 putt and a par - simples....

 

[JamesS]

HomerJ is right about the up and down (scramble) being independent of whether you are shooting for par, bogie or whatever. Its exactly the same idea as a sand save. Its a way of separating your overall score (which might be bad) from particular key aspects of your game (which might be good). Both are good stats to keep. GIR is a must too.

My moving averages are on the rise for GIR and Up and Downs but my Sand-Saves are flagging. I have a lesson with my pro on that this weekend.

There is a guy at our club who swears by SS2. Its a good program, I have seen it. I just prefer the extras you get with Chart My Golf. Either one is good. You will not go wrong with either.

 

[TheClaw]

I had 26 putts on Tuesday and still only shot a 79.

No 3 putts, 1 holed from off the green, 5 1-putts on the front nine. Mainly due to good chipping.

 

[Imurg]

Best this year is 27 but I did have a 24 last year. Missed just about every GIR though.....

 

[Pants]

Had a quick look at the site JamesS has plugged in every post on this thread and it looks total ****.

Really can't understand why he raves about it.

Now, if he had pushed SS2, then I wouldn't have wasted my time in posting.

 

[JamesS]

Pants, as I said in my last entry, both SS2 and CMG are really great programs. If I am 'pushing' anything I am pushing the both of them.

Both have in depth statistics but CMG is more detailed in the areas important to me. Also its been updating a lot lately and of course its free.