Ryder Cup 2021

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Are they doing the pod system this year? Noticed the US Solheim team were doing that and it didn't really work for them.

have no idea tbh, think if you watched the solheim cup youd be more likely to pair 2 people who only met the previous week :D
 
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I suspect a win this year would be the best win for some time. Here's a few stats with the main sheet sorted by: Shots Gained - Tee-to-Green (best to worst, green to red).

Note: Wiesberger's Strokes Gaines numbers are for European Tour, so should be looked at on the basis they're not being compared with USPGA Tour stats and would in reality be worse, to some unknown degree. He was however top of the European Tour rankings for SG Tee to Green.

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As an aside, the last Ryder Cup had the European team with a World Ranking Average of 19 and the US, 11.


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People are pretty rude then about a guy who won twice on the PGA tour this year and came 3rd in the US Open lol, yeah only there to hold Brysons hand. I guess once youve written the same story that many times you start to believe it and then other stories follow

Expect theyll be working on their pairings whilst at Whistling Straits this week, think Stricker brighter than most and will find what works best for them
I'd be very surprised if most, if not all pairings are not spat out of a computer based on each players game statistics.

Europe have been doing it for a few Ryder Cups.
 
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I'd be very surprised if most, if not all pairings are not spat out of a computer based on each players game statistics.

Europe have been doing it for a few Ryder Cups.
Yes, they've been massively into the stats side of things which has helped a lot. If you look at the numbers above id imagine it's quite possible to drill down and pair people who have a good chance of playing well together in 4ball or 4somes.

I was thinking of having a go. Which stats do people think are most important for 4balls and 4somes?
 

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question - they were saying both Lowry and Wiesberger could knock Westwood out the automatic spots this weekend.
do you then take Westy as a pick? his form has been poor recently and doesnt seem to be playing well this week
 

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question - they were saying both Lowry and Wiesberger could knock Westwood out the automatic spots this weekend.
do you then take Westy as a pick? his form has been poor recently and doesnt seem to be playing well this week
Nope.

To be honest, there's a few that are going to qualify automatically that probably shouldn't get a pick if they needed it.
 

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Nope.

To be honest, there's a few that are going to qualify automatically that probably shouldn't get a pick if they needed it.
agreed there. Fleetwood and Hatton wouldnt be getting picked if they needed it.
 
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agreed there. Fleetwood and Hatton wouldnt be getting picked if they needed it.
Without good finishes this week, then Id probably agree, although im not sure the alternatives are better. However Fleetwood had a good result last week and he's playing well through 2 rounds today so he's found a little form.
 

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agreed there. Fleetwood and Hatton wouldnt be getting picked if they needed it.
You could say the same about Fitzpatrick but it then gets to the stage of "ok but who ARE you going to pick?"

But all four of these have pretty much been assured a spot in the team for months despite doing practically nothing in the last few months
 
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They're talking of Stenson on Sky as a possibility, he's been 4th, 3rd and 15th in the last three (European Tour). Currently -4 at the PGA. But he'd missed 11 of 19 cuts previously..
 

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i think stenson is in with a shout for a pick. assuming the automatic ones go as assumed, and he then picks Poulter and Garcia, i think you have Rose, Stenson, Wiesberger, Noren, MacIntyre and even Willett all for consideration for the last pick.
 

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I don’t think it matters, although it is fun debating, because the same circumstances seems to happene every previous Ryder Cup year too

must admit I am having difficulty finding a website which shows me the current standings, and most import atl6 how many points one gets for what position this weekend ? Anyone any help?
 

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I know the Ryder Cup has a bit of a cup final effect and players form doesn't always track with how they perform in the event. But think Europe are on for a real doing this year. Team looks quite poor (current form and world rankings) coupled with the home advantage for Americans.
 
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I know the Ryder Cup has a bit of a cup final effect and players form doesn't always track with how they perform in the event. But think Europe are on for a real doing this year. Team looks quite poor (current form and world rankings) coupled with the home advantage for Americans.
I'm inclined to agree, although I'm a little more optimistic than a couple of weeks ago thanks to Fleetwood, Rose and a couple of others finding a bit of form.

The course looks like a somewhat odd pick from a US point of view, as off the fairways don't look like your standard bomb and gouge layout, so I don't think it will be too much of an advantage.

The form of the US players, home advantage and relatively few European fans will give them a massive advantage though. That and the statistics suggest they should be strong favourites.

This last place looks like a close call. Weisberger is doing all he can to take it. Westwood, I'm not so sure about, and he's one of my favourites players. Same for Fitzpatrick and Poulter. But golf being what it is, who knows what game they'll bring..

Pairings will be massive again, and it's here we generally get it right. Rahm, Hovland, McIlroy, Casey and Garcia will need a big week.

If points were handicap shots, I'd say we should be getting at least 4 of them.

More than happy to be wrong 👍😊
 

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Nice insight from Brooks about his challenges of switching once a year to play team golf
In part; he's very much his own boss for most of the year on and off course. Fitting into someone else tournament schedule, even the non golf things, is quite an adjustment

(I wonder if some of the other global stars might be affected the same way, i.e they're so successful they don't usually have to make any concessions)
 
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