Roy Hodgson

[evahakool]

After hearing a quote from the England manager regarding Wayne Rooneys sending off I thought it was sad indictment of the way the game is played now.

He was saying people thought that Rooney has a underlying problem with his temperant and that is why he kicked out and got sent off.

Which to my eyes is exactly what he did.

He went on to say " nothing could be farther from the truth and was unfair, as all he has tried to do was commit a professional foul and do it very badly"

Now to me this is not the kind of statment I want to hear from the England manager, letting his players make professional fouls so long as they make a good job of it,what a message that sends out to the youngsters.

 

[Lord Tyrion]

My son plays under 15 football and has played junior football for a number of years. The kids on the pitch copy everything that the pro's do down to the abuse of referees, arms in the air, claiming for throw ins, tackles, celebrations etc. If the England manager can not have a moral compass on this then heaven help us at the junior level. Really poor example and if he has not learnt to deflect a leading question like that over the years then that is equally inept. (incidentally my son has never copied this behaviour as a/ I hate it and would not let him and b/ he played club rugby for 3 years first of all and they have a greater level of respect on this front although clearly think nothing of punching the lights out of an opponent)

 

[evahakool]

My son plays under 15 football and has played junior football for a number of years. The kids on the pitch copy everything that the pro's do down to the abuse of referees, arms in the air, claiming for throw ins, tackles, celebrations etc. If the England manager can not have a moral compass on this then heaven help us at the junior level. Really poor example and if he has not learnt to deflect a leading question like that over the years then that is equally inept. (incidentally my son has never copied this behaviour as a/ I hate it and would not let him and b/ he played club rugby for 3 years first of all and they have a greater level of respect on this front although clearly think nothing of punching the lights out of an opponent)

That's dissapointing to hear that about the youngsters but not surprising, it must make coaching at junior level all the more difficult.

 

[Deleted member 15344]

Because he is a dinosaur who doesn't have a clue

 

[HomerJSimpson]

Sadly the England manager has no idea of grass root football. You could argue that the FA themselves aren't doing enough to nip this issue at junior level either. Not sure it sends the right message out to the England side either. We struggle to match sides with a full compliment and if Hodgson is advocating professional fouls and we lose a man then what chance then

 

[Lord Tyrion]

That's dissapointing to hear that about the youngsters but not surprising, it must make coaching at junior level all the more difficult.

I am not a coach, just a dad on the sidelines. I actually think it is entirely within the coaches power to stop this but too many are obsesssed with winning and just have an awful attitude. Yesterday one of our team gave chat back to the referee and chipped at it him constantly. If I was the ref I would have yellow carded him and then followed with a red had he continued. The coach should have subbed him the moment he gave chat to the ref. Neither thing happened so he will do the same next week as he saw no downside to his attitude. I was embarrassed and ashamed to be linked with the team yesterday. Contrast this with a rugby team in a tournament a few years ago. This team, U'11's, had come across from Ireland. One boy scored a great try within the first 2 minutes. He turned and showed off directly in front of the opposition, rubbing their noses in it. The coach pulled him off straight away and warned the rest of the team the same would happen to any of them if they did not show respect to their opponents. He did not play for the rest of the tournament. Great bloke, lovely team. The kid was not nasty but boy did the coach set the standard and his team were impecably behaved for the rest of the tournament, as were the other sides.

Coaches set standards for teams but their lot is not helped by professional players and managers encouraging and excusing cheating. They have to correct what the kids want to copy.

Sad to say but I do think that Roy is a bit of a dinosaur, similar to Capello in that sense, and the rest of the footballing world has moved on from his theories.

 

[HomerJSimpson]

Sadly rugby and football are poles apart in the ways players are allowed to behave on the pitch and I can't see that ever changing however hard coaches at grass roots level work

 

[Papas1982]

Sadly rugby and football are poles apart in the ways players are allowed to behave on the pitch and I can't see that ever changing however hard coaches at grass roots level work

I never get the argument for rugby tbh. Yeah they may be more polite. But the laws allow players to stomp on each other. And let's not forget blood gate.

As for hodgson. Fair play for his honesty. All managers would take a player getting a yellow for a tactical goal instead of conceding a key goal.

 

[Lord Tyrion]

I never get the argument for rugby tbh. Yeah they may be more polite. But the laws allow players to stomp on each other. And let's not forget blood gate.

There is a lot of hypocrisy regarding on field behaviour in rugby but there is a significantly higher degree of respect towards officials and towards the game itself. Don't forget the punishments that were handed out following bloodgate, very severe. It is not a panacea though, I agree.

 

[Foxholer]

I never get the argument for rugby tbh. Yeah they may be more polite. But the laws allow players to stomp on each other. And let's not forget blood gate.

As for hodgson. Fair play for his honesty. All managers would take a player getting a yellow for a tactical goal instead of conceding a key goal.

Er...No they don't! They may have different ways of dealing with foul play, but that is because the nature of the games are different!

And now that they are both fully Professional, career-threatening incidents should be handled equally - bans should also mean significant reduction/loss of income!

 

[SaintHacker]

The FA are doing something at grass roots level, quite a lot actually. they are really pushing the respect campaign and changing the way the game is coached and played. Unfortunately until they sort out the elite level game then nothing will change as no matter how the coach works with the kids, they will still look to the pro's as role models and copy their behaviour. I had a fairly heated debate with the FA instructor (an ex pro) when I did the level 1 badge a while ago, he wouldn't have it that kids could be taught to ignore the professional game.

 

[Pin-seeker]

https://vine.co/v/OKwKVx2rqip
Roy is a PLAYER!!!

 

[Captainron]

I am actively discouraging my sons from playing football. Hockey and Rugby keep them busy over the winter.

 

[Doon frae Troon]

Don't you just love the expression 'professional foul' in football [not]

Imagine if golfers were caught doing a 'professional cheat'.