Round 1 of ulster cup my match report

[Hendy]

Well I know a few of you guys had given advise etc on my match play for my ulster cup game and asked for some what of a report on how I get on etc after the game

So here's were it gets a little interesting.

The guy I was playing was level par or -1 after nine holes and was 6 up after the 10th. You can only imagine what I was thinking at this point lol so not much to say was +3/4 but of course does not mean a think in match play. But felt I was playing OK on to the 11th

He drove into a hazard and I hit the fairway, got up and down to take it back to +5.

12th par 3 165yards. I hit a 7iron was just right of the green. He hit a 7 split the pin and bounded into the bunker at the back, he was unlucky. Anyways we agree at start of the round in water in bunker it was a free drop out, he dropped and duffed the chip. And that was the hole to me, +4

13th S.I 1, drove off down the middle, the other did the same and like the whole round he was a extra 30yards on me, hit the hybrid just short of the green, he played his lovely again lovely line but it plugged at the front of green about 5yards short, and the pin was at the front. So both there in two again he duffed the chip and let me in. +3

At this point I felt I have him I can win this.. 14th par 5. Hit mine down the middle again. He tee'd off pulled it. Into a wind bush so I ran down got him a provisional ball played it down the middle level with my drive again a sign he might have been starting to struggle. Anyways played mine up the middle (safe) thinking take the par and run. However he found his it had came out the other side, so he got it back in play both of us hit the green in 3 and were left with 10 footers. He made his, +4 with 4 to play could not win but was still thinking a half,

15th par 4 low si as well. Hit mine down the middle he lost his right this time. Again door open. Laid up as a water in front of green, he had to come over it, however he did not make it, back to+3 with 3 to play.

16th par 3 165yard again tho tight off of tee. I played a 5 iron this time smooth hit the green, he played the 7iron lost it right into the wind bush. So had to take a drop. Then chipped it onto the back of green and left himself a 5/6 foot downhill with a fair bit of break. I putted short left myself just about 4 foot more than I would have liked. He took he putt and got it, could not believe it, so left me a 4 footer for the par and to take it down 17. And I missed it could not believe it. Pushed it right.

So lost 3&2

Was a great match but not the fair tail finished I wanted but a good experience all the same.

Not sure if the captain will pick me for the next round or not but enjoyed it all the same

Edit: just to add our club won and next round its antrim or donegal.

 

[garyinderry]

good effort chap. many would have completly folded at 6 down. myself included. i find i go chasing when im down and dont play to my strengths.

hope you get picked in the next round. there very little you can do if the guy is level or 1 under after 9

 

[chris661]

Edit: just to add our club won and next round its antrim or donegal.

Oh as we are 6 - 1 up after the first leg hopefully you will be visiting my place

 

[Hendy]

Yea just played my own game Gary, just did not want to give him any holes.

Good lead that Chris. Tho what you men like in a park land course? Links can be tight going if the weathers against u

 

[chris661]

Yea just played my own game Gary, just did not want to give him any holes.

Good lead that Chris. Tho what you men like in a park land course? Links can be tight going if the weathers against u

I think we will be good enough to get a point and a half.

 

[bladeplayer]

Sounds like you stuck in there & battled hard mate congrats on that & it will stand to you in future matches , it would have been easy to just throw in the towel ..

Just on the point below , might be safer to check with the rules gurus to be certain , but I don't think you are allowed to agree on rule changes like that , better to know for further matches ,,

. Anyways we agree at start of the round in water in bunker it was a free drop out,



Was a great match but not the fair tail finished I wanted but a good experience all the same.

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[Hendy]

It was the same for all seven matches was not something we played between ourselves.

Should have made that a little clearer.

 

[HawkeyeMS]

Sounds like you stuck in there & battled hard mate congrats on that & it will stand to you in future matches , it would have been easy to just throw in the towel ..

Just on the point below , might be safer to check with the rules gurus to be certain , but I don't think you are allowed to agree on rule changes like that , better to know for further matches ,,

I was drawn to the same comment. I believe the penalty is disqualification.

EDIT: Just checked, both sides are disqualified in matchplay for agreeing to waive a rule

 

[HawkeyeMS]

It was the same for all seven matches was not something we played between ourselves.

Should have made that a little clearer.

Thanks for the clarification but I'm still not sure it's allowed unless the committee have declared all bunkers GUR. I am however stretching my knowledge at this point.

Still, glad you enjoyed it and 3&2 isn't bad considering you were 6 down!

 

[bladeplayer]

It was the same for all seven matches was not something we played between ourselves.

Should have made that a little clearer.

Had the same issues in a barton cup match my club was involved in mate , re plugging in the rough .. clubs/teams cant just amend rules as they go along .. there can be local rules but they cant break the rules of golf either..

Wasn't having a go , just giving you a heads up

 

[Hendy]

No probs unsure if bunkers were gur or not, also they had placing on fairways and clean and drop in the semi,

novice to all this stuff really i just turn up and play and do what I am told lol. Only playing from 2007 so can't say I know all the rules etc

Think the reason for it was just the amount of water laying on the course and indeed in most of the bunkers Not sure how you could play out of them unless u pushed the ball into the side wall of it, as if you dropped it would just roll back into the water. They would have been unplayable IMO.

Normally spring of year grass is growing and the sun is shinning, not fighting to keep the brolly up when your trying to pull on water proof top and bottoms a lol. Joys of golfing in ulster I guess

Edit: I will raise the point with our captain this weekend if I see him or if I don't I will say to one of the other guys that run things in our place

Edit2: found the card under local rules it states GUR relief may be taken without penalty from: all marked gur. All gravel drains. Any wheel ruts. Then it states please refer to additional regulations and local rules displayed in the golf centre.

So unless there was something posted up in the centre?

 

[Joff]

Yeah, just means the bunkers were GUR.

 

[Curls]

Good fight back chap, bet your thinking "what might have been" if you holed that 4 footer. The important thing is to forget about that now and a lesson learned for the next round, no matter how far behind you are never out of it until its mathematically impossible to win. Sounds like being so far ahead got to him a bit, thats a lesson learned too!

 

[brendy]

Yeah, just means the bunkers were GUR.

Bunkers must be circled in white paint Id have thought to be GUR. You cant just assume they are. I have a bad feeling about the outcome of this one Hendy.

 

[Joff]

We have days during the winter when all bunkers are GUR, as long as they notify us. No need for the white paint.

 

[brendy]

Just checked the R and A site there, doesnt have to be painted, http://www.randa.org/en/rules-and-a...unning-a-competition.aspx?chapter=2&section=2

In terms of flooded bunkers, the Committee may not make a general Local Rule providing that all flooded bunkers are ground under repair through the green as such a Local Rule waives a penalty imposed by the Rules of Golf, contrary to Rule 33-8b. However, in conditions of extreme wetness, where certain specific bunkers are completely flooded prior to the competition commencing and there is no possibility of the bunkers drying up during the competition, the Committee may introduce a Local Rule providing that these bunkers are deemed to be ground under repair. This allows for relief to be taken without penalty in accordance with Rule 25-1b(i). The following wording for such a Local Rule is recommended:

“The flooded bunker on [insert location of bunker; e.g. left of 5th green] is ground under repair. If a player’s ball lies in that bunker or if that bunker interferes with the player’s stance or the area of his intended swing and the player wishes to take relief, he must take relief outside the bunker, without penalty, in accordance with Rule 25-1b(i). All other bunkers on the course, regardless of whether they contain water, maintain their status as hazards and the Rules apply accordingly.

PENALTY FOR BREACH OF LOCAL RULE:
Match play – Loss of hole; Stroke play – Two strokes.”

The local rule must be up in print, two teams cant just waive the rule. Anyone more knowledgeable verify this?

 

[HawkeyeMS]

Just checked the R and A site there, doesnt have to be painted, http://www.randa.org/en/rules-and-a...n-running-a-competition.aspx?chapter=2§ion=2


The local rule must be up in print, two teams cant just waive the rule. Anyone more knowledgeable verify this?

I think you have it nailed Brendy and that is also my understanding. I also understand from that decision that you can't just declare all bunkers GUR. You must inspect each bunker and state specifically which ones are GUR. Just because a bunker has a puddle in it, doesn't mean it has to be GUR, if there is a dry spot in which the ball can be dropped, the it sould remain in play as a hazard

 

[HomerJSimpson]

Good battling qualities although I echo the words of the others that you can't waive rules. If its a local rule fine but you can't do so otherwise. Waterlogged bunkers mean you can drop inside the hazard at the nearest point of relief or drop out of the hazard under penalty of one stroke

 

[Hendy]

Yea that was always my understanding of it and the way I always play it in any comp, But the fact the course was closed a few days before due to being water logged, add to that rained heavy the night before the fact the course open was a miracle. I assumed this was likely a local rule in place. Will find out for sure when I speak with captain on sat.

 

[chris661]

Anyway you are playing us. Where do you play hendy?