Rorys last hole in the Majors 2016

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Did anyone watch the golf last night, Rory on the 18th last night summed up his last few years, and the very reason I believe he will not win another major until he changes either his mindset or gets a stronger caddie.

18th is a short Par 5 he was right on or just above the cut line at plus 2, had a 5 or 6 iron into the green, the flag is tight to the front. The shot all day long was hit the green 2 putt play the weekend and see what happens, Rory tries to cut one in to get it close, over cuts it into a horrid spot and not only doesn't make birdie but doesn't make a par and is definitely not playing the weekend.

Between Rory and his caddie they are not making the right decisions.
 
I agree it was not the best decision to try and get close to that pin, but the last hole decision is far from his biggest problem. His tee to green was actually pretty solid yesterday, as it is most of the time. PUTTING is shocking, or pathetic as Rory himself described it.

His wedge game needs some work also. I notice often in his 2/3 ball he is 30/40 yards closer. Playing partners going in with irons, he going in with a wedge or short iron and he is TOO often further away. He hits wedges on full power too often. I see most others going for control and precision with a lot less than full power/swings

New caddie and new putting coach/new coach period.
 
I remember about 2 years ago there was a thread about McIlroy because he hadn't won in a while and swapped to Nike , there was then the same things being said - new coach , new caddy - not going to win a major for ages etc etc - he then went on to win the PGA , The Open, the US Pga plus WGC

He is a streaky player because he is a straky putter - why does he need a new caddy when clearly he didn't sink enough putts - he will work on it and then come back and win some more and then have another dry spell. His record is there for all to see and it's been alongside his caddy
 
It was just over a year ago and he has won nothing of note (sorry irish open but you are not important ).

He needs to change his caddie because they make bad decisions together, I get he didn't putt well but all he needed was a safe iron shot from the middle of the fairway to make the cut.

Tournaments have been won by players who have just scraped the cut but no one that has missed the cut has ever won a golf tournament
 
But that shot and his aggression is exactly what makes Rory a great player, it's just his execution was off this week.

Change him going for pins when he can and turn him more defensive might mean more made cuts and top 25 finishes but it will take away some of the wins, which is all he cares about.

In his mind he was up and down for Eagle, which would have got him within 7 of Jason Day and a very slim chance, with a bucket load of momentum. He has no interest in playing to 40ft, scraping the cut, shooting two 67s and the weekend and coming 25th.

He did play the hole terribly though! But I wouldn't change his approach to it.

For me it's his wedge game doing serious damage at the moment, he just isn't getting anywhere near enough from 125 and in to the 12ft range, which is putting pressure on his putting which can be flaky. Go do some DJ-esque work with the wedges, find a new putting coach and he will be fine.
 
freddielong said:
Did anyone watch the golf last night, Rory on the 18th last night summed up his last few years, and the very reason I believe he will not win another major until he changes either his mindset or gets a stronger caddie.

18th is a short Par 5 he was right on or just above the cut line at plus 2, had a 5 or 6 iron into the green, the flag is tight to the front. The shot all day long was hit the green 2 putt play the weekend and see what happens, Rory tries to cut one in to get it close, over cuts it into a horrid spot and not only doesn't make birdie but doesn't make a par and is definitely not playing the weekend.

Between Rory and his caddie they are not making the right decisions.
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World number 4 tries a basic fade with a mid iron from middle of fairway. Shock horror....

OK he over-did the cut, but do you really think you get to world number 1 by playing 5 or 6 irons away from the pin and accepting a 2 putt?

If he had 50 attempts at playing that shot again, he would probably make about 40 birdies, 9 eagles and a freak bogey, which just happened to occur yesterday. He was just unlucky, even by missing the green to the right 20 times, he would probably make birdie half of those times.
 
Three said:
World number 4 tries a basic fade with a mid iron from middle of fairway. Shock horror....

OK he over-did the cut, but do you really think you get to world number 1 by playing 5 or 6 irons away from the pin and accepting a 2 putt?

If he had 50 attempts at playing that shot again, he would probably make about 40 birdies, 9 eagles and a freak bogey, which just happened to occur yesterday. He was just unlucky, even by missing the green to the right 20 times, he would probably make birdie half of those times.
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Ok but when you are not playing well you stay in the tournament, like Spieth and Day over the first 9 holes.
 
freddielong said:
It was just over a year ago and he has won nothing of note (sorry irish open but you are not important ).

He needs to change his caddie because they make bad decisions together, I get he didn't putt well but all he needed was a safe iron shot from the middle of the fairway to make the cut.

Tournaments have been won by players who have just scraped the cut but no one that has missed the cut has ever won a golf tournament
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Sorry but when was the Irish Open not deemed important ? It's his home open hosted by him and one he wanted to win and he did win it - you can't deem it "not important " because that helps it sit in with your opinion - also have to remember that he has spent a period out with an ankle injury

I think Hobbit said it well yesterday about Willett - people seem to enjoy knocking down our top players - the way he plays is what wins him majors - it's fine margins and if he had got a few more putts to drop he would be up there challenging
 
Whatever the reasons, and whether people agree with it or not. He is going backwards, very quickly. He needs to sort it out massively over the winter months.

Otherwise when he gets to the senior tour he will have a lot of time counting his money and not his majors.
 
Tashyboy said:
Whatever the reasons, and whether people agree with it or not. He is going backwards, very quickly. He needs to sort it out massively over the winter months.

Otherwise when he gets to the senior tour he will have a lot of time counting his money and not his majors.
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Don't you think that's a bit too much overreaction ? He once went 20 months without a win - couple weeks ago he was 5th in The Open and before that he won the Irish Open yet he is being written off
 
freddielong said:
Ok but when you are not playing well you stay in the tournament, like Spieth and Day over the first 9 holes.
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Did you not see the stunning drive he'd hit about 5 minutes previously?

The shot from the middle of the fairway was a fade, he just over did it and got very unlucky.
 
Tashyboy said:
Whatever the reasons, and whether people agree with it or not. He is going backwards, very quickly. He needs to sort it out massively over the winter months.

Otherwise when he gets to the senior tour he will have a lot of time counting his money and not his majors.
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Isn't that just what we call "golf"?

We've only seen one player completely dominant, all the best of the rest have come and gone in waves.

The margins are extremely fine, I don't see any issues for major concern.
 
Three said:
Isn't that just what we call "golf"?

We've only seen one player completely dominant, all the best of the rest have come and gone in waves.

The margins are extremely fine, I don't see any issues for major concern.
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One player??

I've seen two and looking at the best of the best he missed something like 8 or 9 cuts over a 30 year period in the majors.

Rory will go down as a great. But if he wants to be The Great of his time he'll have to finish more tournaments.

Jack's first thought was get on the green then be as close as you can.

'Nuff said??

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Robobum said:
https://twitter.com/jamessavagencg/status/759299284420395008
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I also saw a stat that he was 1st on strokes gained driving and 151st on stokes gained putting.

On the 18th he hit a bad approach and then two dreadful chips, albeit from a tough lie on the first of those. I see the OP's point about hitting the green and two putting and (at my level of ability) that's certainly what I would have done but also agree with three that it's not really a difficult shot for Rory, he just hit a bad shot. Not a caddy issue.

He needs to sort his putting, he doesn't hole enough mid range ones and misses far too many around 6 feet. He just looks uncomfortable putting and you never really expect him to hole these putts. Nothing he isn't well aware of, I'm sure, he'll be working on it and when it clicks again he'll win plenty.
 
This just shows how good Tiger was.
The likes of Rory,Day,Speith & DJ will all have spells at the top,but none will dominate like Tiger did.
Rory will definitely win more majors.
 
Tashyboy said:
Whatever the reasons, and whether people agree with it or not. He is going backwards, very quickly. He needs to sort it out massively over the winter months.

Otherwise when he gets to the senior tour he will have a lot of time counting his money and not his majors.
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What a ridiculous overreaction. At this age the greatest of all all time went 12 majors without winning one. At this age Phil Mick, the second greatest golfer of 21st century, didn't have a single major.

There's only 4 a year and it's tough to win with such deep fields. You'll look foolish in 10 years when he has a career slam and 8 majors to his name the be the best Europe has produced.
 
Tashyboy said:
Whatever the reasons, and whether people agree with it or not. He is going backwards, very quickly. He needs to sort it out massively over the winter months.

Otherwise when he gets to the senior tour he will have a lot of time counting his money and not his majors.
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He's gone backwards before, all the way out of the top ten in the world after being world no 1, went on to win the Austrailian PGA and then went on to top the rankings again. There's plenty of time for hint to work it out. He knows what the issue is, he said it himself. He'll put in work between now and April next year on his putting.

As others have said people are too quick to know them down when they had a bad spell. Just let him play golf and the wins will take care of themselves.
 
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