Robbed by a 'Silly Golf Rule'

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harpo_72 said:
Oo your all getting a little mean now! :) Lessons are best learnt through experience, this is an experience he needs to chalk up and say how could I have done better... Not moan about the rules. My groan about the rules relates really to letting people damage the course and leave it ..for me the Dyson case should have created a point of discussion, the player leaving the damage should have been penalised.
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I'm assuming you're either joking or haven't thought that through?
 
I suspect that the problem may have started when you were actually on the 1st tee -did the following happen by any chance?........... you were tee'd up, head down, in the zone, when you realised that one of your FC's or PP's or whatever they are called this week was not stood in the HNSP at 3 oclock but they were actually standing at quarter to 8. This display of bad etiquette then put you off your swing as you started wondering to yourself what they might be doing (are they doing practice swings, fiddlings in their pockets, pulling a moonie, sticking fingers up at you etc). This display of bad etiquette then resulted in you slicing the ball.

So if you look at it like this, then no it's not your fault at all, but is the fault of your FC/PP/KH who has no eitquette and needs to brush up on the rules of golf :D
 
dufferman said:
A bunker isn't OOB, so there should never be a penalty for going in one. Simple. It makes it a harder shot (most of the time) being in a bunker, but never a stock 1 shot penalty.

Bad show of club not putting local rule in place.
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so mid round there's a deluge, and the bunker fills with water.... what happens to them that went into the bunker before the rain? they then get penalised - best way to not get a penalty is don't go in the bunker!
 
I really dont get some of the replys here guys ,

ok maybe he should not have played the previous shots as "bad"
ok maybe he should not have put it in the bunker
ok maybe he coulda took 3 shots or more to get out
ok maybe he coulda then took 5 putts to get down


But maybe just maybe he coulda holed the bunker shot aswell ..

the decision was taken out of his hand tho , the course was not maintained in a way he could even try it, its not his fault the bunker is totaly unplayable and he should not be penalised for that IMO .. id be annoyed if it happened to me aswell ..

BUT to blame it for wrecking the score after you had 8 holes of 2/3 pointers after it ? , sorry no , that is your own fault
 
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bladeplayer said:
I really dont get some of the replys here guys ,

ok maybe he should not have played the previous shots as "bad"
ok maybe he should not have put it in the bunker
ok maybe he coulda took 3 shots or more to get out
ok maybe he coulda then took 5 putts to get down


But maybe just maybe he coulda holed the bunker shot aswell ..

the decision was taken out of his hand tho , the course was not maintained in a way he could even try it, its not his fault the bunker is totaly unplayable and he should not be penalised for that IMO .. id be annoyed if it happened to me aswell ..

BUT to blame it for wrecking the score after you had 8 holes of 2/3 pointers after it ? , sorry no , that is your own fault
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The rules make allowances for these situations though, if anyone is to blame beside the OP it is the committee not the rules.
 
bladeplayer said:
I really dont get some of the replys here guys ,

ok maybe he should not have played the previous shots as "bad"
ok maybe he should not have put it in the bunker
ok maybe he coulda took 3 shots or more to get out
ok maybe he coulda then took 5 putts to get down


But maybe just maybe he coulda holed the bunker shot aswell ..

the decision was taken out of his hand tho , the course was not maintained in a way he could even try it, its not his fault the bunker is totaly unplayable and he should not be penalised for that IMO .. id be annoyed if it happened to me aswell ..

BUT to blame it for wrecking the score after you had 8 holes of 2/3 pointers after it ? , sorry no , that is your own fault
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I'd be frustrated for sure, but I wouldn't blame it on a rule of golf and think I have been hard done by.
 
You could argue that the greenkeeper not doing his job and reporting back to the committee that there were flooded bunkers, who in turn did not do their job by making them GUR. However I would have imagined given the state of most courses the GK was probably too busy trying to get the course playable for the comp.

From the scenario in the OP he has hit to rotten shots, taken on a risky next and not succeeded. Despite not clearly not being in the groove or swinging well a recovery from the sand and a given net par is expected from wet sand. How can that be? I even saw the illustrious "Sweet Cheeks" leave a ball in a bunker at West Hill at the H4H from a good lie and he plays off far lower. Just because you took a shot on and failed you can't assume the next will work out. Take the penalty, man up and carry on.
 
woody69 said:
I'd be frustrated for sure, but I wouldn't blame it on a rule of golf and think I have been hard done by.
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Also agree with you mate , not a silly rule , id blame it on the committe or greenkeeper , i would still feel hard done by tho
:D cant be blaming myself for not playing well ha ..
 
HomerJSimpson said:
You could argue that the greenkeeper not doing his job and reporting back to the committee that there were flooded bunkers, who in turn did not do their job by making them GUR. However I would have imagined given the state of most courses the GK was probably too busy trying to get the course playable for the comp.

From the scenario in the OP he has hit to rotten shots, taken on a risky next and not succeeded. Despite not clearly not being in the groove or swinging well a recovery from the sand and a given net par is expected from wet sand. How can that be? I even saw the illustrious "Sweet Cheeks" leave a ball in a bunker at West Hill at the H4H from a good lie and he plays off far lower. Just because you took a shot on and failed you can't assume the next will work out. Take the penalty, man up and carry on.
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Sorry Martin i still think he should have had the chance to play the shot & if that chance was not available due to the fault of the bunker being totally flooded then he shouldnt be penalised , but as Mike & Woody quiet rightly pointed out its not a rule fault its
the fault of the greenkeeper or committee ,

Fair enough its the OP fault he in the bunker but thats all .. we have all had 3 or 4 bad shots on a hole and chipped in or sank a monster putt , he may have made it ya know ..

But as i said earlier
BUT to blame it for wrecking the score after you had 8 holes of 2/3 pointers after it ? , sorry no , that is your own fault
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HomerJSimpson said:
You could argue that the greenkeeper not doing his job and reporting back to the committee that there were flooded bunkers, who in turn did not do their job by making them GUR. However I would have imagined given the state of most courses the GK was probably too busy trying to get the course playable for the comp.

From the scenario in the OP he has hit to rotten shots, taken on a risky next and not succeeded. Despite not clearly not being in the groove or swinging well a recovery from the sand and a given net par is expected from wet sand. How can that be? I even saw the illustrious "Sweet Cheeks" leave a ball in a bunker at West Hill at the H4H from a good lie and he plays off far lower. Just because you took a shot on and failed you can't assume the next will work out. Take the penalty, man up and carry on.
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Whilst I agree, the OPs course is a muni, the green keeper probably didn't even know there was a comp on, and probably doesn't much care. Knowing the course well as I do, I can also say that unless it is under snow, it never closes regardless of condition, it's a cash cow, and a very successful one at that.
 
HawkeyeMS said:
Whilst I agree, the OPs course is a muni, the green keeper probably didn't even know there was a comp on, and probably doesn't much care. Knowing the course well as I do, I can also say that unless it is under snow, it never closes regardless of condition, it's a cash cow, and a very successful one at that.
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I know Hoebridge too but surely they must have had green staff out on the course before play. It must have been noticeable that bunkers were unfit and fed that back. I don't think you can hide behind the "muni" label
 
I think we all need to keep this in perspective. The weather recently has been exceptional and I think most of us are just lucky to be able to get out on the course, playing in any kind of competition (I'm assuming the OP was?) is purely a bonus. At this time of year you have to accept certain factors and I think a flooded bunker is one of those factors.

Personally, I really don't see what all the fuss is about.
 
drive4show said:
I think we all need to keep this in perspective. The weather recently has been exceptional and I think most of us are just lucky to be able to get out on the course, playing in any kind of competition (I'm assuming the OP was?) is purely a bonus. At this time of year you have to accept certain factors and I think a flooded bunker is one of those factors.

Personally, I really don't see what all the fuss is about.
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Spot on - it's not like you lose out on your club champs in a bog of a field in January!!
 
Ball in water in a bunker and nowhere to drop it on sand - so water splash or pen drop - it's a bummer that is - a right bummer. But you shouldn't have been in the bunker in the first place - always dodgy to go in these blighters as can be a bleedin' nuisance to get out of at the best of times, Up and down in three from a bunker seems an acceptable result - however you look at it and it's made.

Some of our bunkers have been declared GUR as we know they don't drain well when flooded. All the rest can flood but we know they drain - so not fair to declare these ones GUR as could be flooded one minute and an hour later completely playable - and vice versa - clear one minute flooded the next, Just luck and bad luck that - the name of the game,
 
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