Retrospective Bans for Diving - in Football - being considered

[Foxholer]

Hoo-bleding-Ray!

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/39962886

Artistry description could now be restricted to footballing skills, as opposed to acting ones!

 

[Beezerk]

About time.

 

[Foxholer]

Re: Retrospective Bans for Diving!

Sorted!

Link has been updated to reflect approval!

 

[jdpjamesp]

This is my favourite of recent time... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4Fxn7mwQXkE

 

[JohnnyDee]

Re: Retrospective Bans for Diving!

Good!!

There's more diving going on in any typical Premiership game than there is in a Tom Daley practice session.

FA ought to go further and any team awarded and scoring a penalty as a result of a subsequently judged dive should have the goal disallowed and tough luck if it alters the result, goal diff etc.

These wallies would soon learn not to do it.

 

[User62651]

Works ok up here in Scotland, doesn't change the result of the game though if a diver gets away with it during the game, expect some players and coaches would willingly have a player dive, get a pen and 'take a grenade' for the team - player gets a 2 match rest and your team gets 3 points. Suspension could of course cost you points in the next 2 games as team is not full-strength but it's not a fool proof system.

 

[srixon 1]

Good job that this was never around during Klinsmans playing days, he would still be banned now.

 

[Deleted member 16999]

Banned only follows if diver wins a pen or has an opponent sent off, so it's ok to dive outside the box so long as no one is sent off, what if the dive results in a free kick and their team score from it

 

[Imurg]

Banned only follows if diver wins a pen or has an opponent sent off, so it's ok to dive outside the box so long as no one is sent off, what if the dive results in a free kick and their team score from it

Exactly.
They've bottled it.
Done half a job..

 

[Blue in Munich]

Banned only follows if diver wins a pen or has an opponent sent off, so it's ok to dive outside the box so long as no one is sent off, what if the dive results in a free kick and their team score from it

Exactly.
They've bottled it.
Done half a job..

Basically the FA simulating a decent rule change then; any chance we can ban them?

 

[Deleted member 15344]

Exactly.
They've bottled it.
Done half a job..

Did you expect anything different from the FA - it's a joke tbh and I have no doubt they will bottle it when it comes to the crunch

 

[clubchamp98]

Why complicate it if you get caught diving 3 game ban.

 

[ColchesterFC]

I assume that they'll have to change the rules as well so that diving becomes a red card offence rather than the current yellow. Otherwise if you dive and the ref sees it the player will get a yellow card, but if the same player dives and the ref is conned by it they'll get a retrospective ban.

 

[Deleted member 16999]

I assume that they'll have to change the rules as well so that diving becomes a red card offence rather than the current yellow. Otherwise if you dive and the ref sees it the player will get a yellow card, but if the same player dives and the ref is conned by it they'll get a retrospective ban.

It won't get reviewed unless there's a pen or opposition sent off. So a dive in the centre circle that cons the ref and no one is sent off gets ignored.

 

[ColchesterFC]

It won't get reviewed unless there's a pen or opposition sent off. So a dive in the centre circle that cons the ref and no one is sent off gets ignored.

My point is that the same offence will carry different punishments depending on whether the ref saw it or not. If a player dives in the box and the ref spots it they'll get a yellow card. But if the ref is conned and gives a penalty then the player will get a ban.

At least with retrospective punishments for something like an elbow the end result is the same. If the ref sees it and gives a red card it's a 3 match ban. If the ref misses it and it's looked at afterwards then it's also a 3 match ban.

 

[Deleted member 16999]

My point is that the same offence will carry different punishments depending on whether the ref saw it or not. If a player dives in the box and the ref spots it they'll get a yellow card. But if the ref is conned and gives a penalty then the player will get a ban.

At least with retrospective punishments for something like an elbow the end result is the same. If the ref sees it and gives a red card it's a 3 match ban. If the ref misses it and it's looked at afterwards then it's also a 3 match ban.

But the Ref has seen it and been conned, also no retrospective action now if the ref sees it, if he gives a yellow for an elbow, it's deemed to have been dealt with and no further action follows.

I don't like it as the team who have been cheated get nothing out of it, it's the next 2 opposition that benefit.

 

[HomerJSimpson]

A worthy idea but fudged as would seem inevitable with the FA. A very good point made about the dive that the ref gives as a free kick outside the box and results in a goal, either directly or indirectly. Surely that has the same impact on a game as diving for a penalty and so needs addressing

 

[Liverbirdie]

Basically the FA simulating a decent rule change then; any chance we can ban them?

Very clever play by the FA, and you cant blame them for going down........that route.

 

[Blue in Munich]

Very clever play by the FA, and you cant blame them for going down........that route.

Are you dangling that out there hoping for contact……….?

 

[Liverbirdie]

Are you dangling that out there hoping for contact……….?

Well if the FA are going to travel at that speed, it may only take one slight knock to put them out of their stride.