Recently got fitted for Mizuno MP5, advice please!

[jamielaing]

I recently went to get fitted for Mizuno MP5 irons. Got a couple of suggestions with the caveat that I won't notice much difference from my MP64s however I want new irons and mine look tired so I'm choosing to ignore that piece of info!

Fitting was for project x 6.5 shafts and an inch longer shafts, 1 degrees strong.

My questions for those in the know before I make up my mind;

Has anyone made the move from 64s to 5s? If so how did you find it? Are they harder to use?

I liked the project x shafts but are they generally higher launching than x100s? They looked higher when playing them. Has anyone tried project x 7.0? I wonder if they would work better for me.

My current clubs are 1 degree strong. Would going 2 degrees really make much difference to launch angle? Also would the extra degree really increase distance by much?

Are the longer irons in the MP5s hard to hit?

I know you shouldn't leave a fitting with so many questions however I couldn't hit a ball for the first 40 minutes for some obscure reason, think I was trying to smash them so feel like I didn't cover everything I wanted to!

Any opinions greatly received.

 

[Region3]

If you're a decent ball striker I think you'll be fine with MP-5, but will there always be that nagging little doubt? The question is how much do you want them?

I love blades, but my last club change I went for a little more help with AP2 even though I hit the MB better on the days I tested them. They feel almost as nice on a good hit but the bad ones are just that little bit better, and when you don't have many shots to play with it might make the difference between a small cut and getting 0.1 back.

As for the shafts, I know of one person using PX 7.0, some fella called McIlroy.

I think like for like PX launch a touch higher than TTDG, but I personally don't think there's anything wrong with a high ball flight unless it doesn't suit the course and conditions you play.
I think most people would be surprised at how high the pros hit the ball, but it just goes and goes rather than ballooning or stalling.
If you have LM figures, as long as the spin isn't crazy I wouldn't worry about hitting too high.

Just my opinion of course.

 

[jamielaing]

I like to think I am a decent ball striker! I love the irons, love the way they feel I just haven't had the opportunity to hit the long irons. I think it's ridiculous that we are to make our decision on a set of irons based on a 6 iron! Realistically, how much do I want them, a lot!

When I play with someone I've never met before generally the first comment is, Jesus that's high! I really want to bring the height down which is why px 7.0 may be considered but could be just too stiff, need to have a go though.

 

[davemc1]

Absolutely no idea on blade or shafts... But the one lesson I took from getting fitted was to go back a few weeks later and test the numbers, feel, looks etc before pulling the trigger. Why rush into things? And the price of a re-fit is nothing if you have peace of mind knowing you made the right choice

just seen you're 2nd post regarding hitting the longer clubs, kinda renders my response useless 😆

 

[NWJocko]

Doesn't really sound like you've been fitted rather than just try a demo 6 iron?

Find somewhere you can hit a 4 iron before choosing would be my suggestion.

Mp5's aren't really blades though IMO, I had been using a set (with mp25 longer irons) from a mate and they've got quite a big club head and aren't difficult to hit or punishing like "proper" blades tend to be. I was going to try the long irons and get a set before I bought my current irons.

Why do you want to launch it lower? Did the pro you were trying the clubs with say you were hitting it too high? I'd love to be able to launch it miles in the air when needed!

 

[butchercd]

I went from a set of JPX EZ Forged irons to a mixed set of MP-25's and MP-5's. 4-6 are MP-25's, 7-PW are MP-5's. All are fitted with KBS C-Taper lite stiff shafts.

Agree with some of the above, the MP-5's aren't the most difficult club to hit and I struck them well during the fitting but I wasn't sure about the longer irons on days when I'm not quite striking it 100%. I went for the split set to help me out on the slightly off days. Have you considered the same?

I used Project X shafts in my old irons and in general I'm a high ball hitter, the change in shaft has lowered the ball flight slightly but upped spin and control.

 

[chrisd]

the change in shaft has lowered the ball flight slightly but upped spin and control.

So I can look forward to another stuffing next time we play!!

 

[patricks148]

can't comment on the 5's v the 64, but i did move from 62 to JPX pro then to 4's.

once i got used to the shaft change to KBS Ctaper120 (had used s300 for 7 years) i find they go as far as the JPX, which in turn went at least a club and a bit further than the 62. i also find the long irons easier to hit than the forgiving JPX to the extent i went for a 3 iron.

My understanding is the 5 has a bigger head and more forgiveness than the 4 so i can't see you having an issue.

i would also make sure you take time to get used to the clubs and new shafts... mine took at least a couple of months to get used to the deader feel. don't make the mistake many on here do. get new clubs hit them a few times then give up.

I'm sure you will be fine

 

[Junior]

I'm sure the MP5's will be fine for you. I found that they are not quite a true blade and the club head was a little larger than say the MP4's. Regarding the shaft, try the c taper and c taper lite. I found they went a bit lower when I hit them. or, just club up and swing easy Enjoy the new bats !!!

 

[JT77]

There is a 10 handicapper who played jimmy bruen for our team this year using 7.0, he is a big lad, hits his 8 iron like my 6 and gets on with them, I tried them in practice round and for me they feel like a steel rod, even for ady they launch low, but he gets in ok with them, as said I would find a fitter that has more options to try there are more shafts out there than the px or tt, I used to play X1 in my mp63 and loved them but switched to kbs.

 

[jamielaing]

Doesn't really sound like you've been fitted rather than just try a demo 6 iron?

Find somewhere you can hit a 4 iron before choosing would be my suggestion.

Mp5's aren't really blades though IMO, I had been using a set (with mp25 longer irons) from a mate and they've got quite a big club head and aren't difficult to hit or punishing like "proper" blades tend to be. I was going to try the long irons and get a set before I bought my current irons.

Why do you want to launch it lower? Did the pro you were trying the clubs with say you were hitting it too high? I'd love to be able to launch it miles in the air when needed!

It's a standing joke that every ball I hit comes down with snow on it! It was actually a proper fitting at a performance centre but I wasn't hitting the ball well (3 weeks with no golf) so took quite a while. Think it's just left me with some questions before I pull the trigger.

 

[jamielaing]

I went from a set of JPX EZ Forged irons to a mixed set of MP-25's and MP-5's. 4-6 are MP-25's, 7-PW are MP-5's. All are fitted with KBS C-Taper lite stiff shafts.

Agree with some of the above, the MP-5's aren't the most difficult club to hit and I struck them well during the fitting but I wasn't sure about the longer irons on days when I'm not quite striking it 100%. I went for the split set to help me out on the slightly off days. Have you considered the same?

I used Project X shafts in my old irons and in general I'm a high ball hitter, the change in shaft has lowered the ball flight slightly but upped spin and control.

There's just something about the c taper that I don't like, struggle to hit it for some reason, feel it lacks feel.

 

[jamielaing]

can't comment on the 5's v the 64, but i did move from 62 to JPX pro then to 4's.

once i got used to the shaft change to KBS Ctaper120 (had used s300 for 7 years) i find they go as far as the JPX, which in turn went at least a club and a bit further than the 62. i also find the long irons easier to hit than the forgiving JPX to the extent i went for a 3 iron.

My understanding is the 5 has a bigger head and more forgiveness than the 4 so i can't see you having an issue.

i would also make sure you take time to get used to the clubs and new shafts... mine took at least a couple of months to get used to the deader feel. don't make the mistake many on here do. get new clubs hit them a few times then give up.

I'm sure you will be fine

Cheers Patrick, I knew you had done similar so good to know you found the irons to be good.

 

[jamielaing]

I'm sure the MP5's will be fine for you. I found that they are not quite a true blade and the club head was a little larger than say the MP4's. Regarding the shaft, try the c taper and c taper lite. I found they went a bit lower when I hit them. or, just club up and swing easy Enjoy the new bats !!!

Cheers junior.

 

[jamielaing]

There is a 10 handicapper who played jimmy bruen for our team this year using 7.0, he is a big lad, hits his 8 iron like my 6 and gets on with them, I tried them in practice round and for me they feel like a steel rod, even for ady they launch low, but he gets in ok with them, as said I would find a fitter that has more options to try there are more shafts out there than the px or tt, I used to play X1 in my mp63 and loved them but switched to kbs.

I am keen to see what 7.0 would do to the launch angle. Only worry would be that they are too stiff but definitely worth a try.

 

[Alex1975]

I recently went to get fitted for Mizuno MP5 irons. Got a couple of suggestions with the caveat that I won't notice much difference from my MP64s however I want new irons and mine look tired so I'm choosing to ignore that piece of info!

Fitting was for project x 6.5 shafts and an inch longer shafts, 1 degrees strong.

My questions for those in the know before I make up my mind;

Has anyone made the move from 64s to 5s? If so how did you find it? Are they harder to use?

I liked the project x shafts but are they generally higher launching than x100s? They looked higher when playing them. Has anyone tried project x 7.0? I wonder if they would work better for me.

My current clubs are 1 degree strong. Would going 2 degrees really make much difference to launch angle? Also would the extra degree really increase distance by much?

Are the longer irons in the MP5s hard to hit?

I know you shouldn't leave a fitting with so many questions however I couldn't hit a ball for the first 40 minutes for some obscure reason, think I was trying to smash them so feel like I didn't cover everything I wanted to!

Any opinions greatly received.

Yes a fair bit(bold section), not only will it bring launch down but also spin, maybe around 1000 rpm. Trouble is, you start taking too much loft off a blade and you start to change the bounce and with such a small sole it might be a little odd with turf interaction.

PX is a funny shaft, some players spin it a lot an others with the same SS spin it very little so there is no stock answer. If your spinning the 6 iron around 6k or a little below, down as much as 5k then the height is no big deal and you will be optimizing the club pretty well. X100 is on the Mizuno list and is very different to PX 6.5... The PX is a counterbalanced shaft, weight in the butt and X100 is more throughout the shaft. I would be very tempted to spend some time hitting the MP 5 with the X100.

It is acceptable to move loft to help flight but moving it 2* to accommodate a shaft your already not sure about it maybe something to think about.

 

[Region3]

Do you remember the figures from the fitting, like launch angle, spin and peak height?

 

[jamielaing]

Do you remember the figures from the fitting, like launch angle, spin and peak height?

Disappointingly he didn't give me them. I obviously looked at the numbers as we went through but with so many flying about its hard to remember. 6200 with 19 degrees launch does stick in my head though.

 

[jamielaing]

Do you remember the figures from the fitting, like launch angle, spin and peak height?

Yes a fair bit(bold section), not only will it bring launch down but also spin, maybe around 1000 rpm. Trouble is, you start taking too much loft off a blade and you start to change the bounce and with such a small sole it might be a little odd with turf interaction.

PX is a funny shaft, some players spin it a lot an others with the same SS spin it very little so there is no stock answer. If your spinning the 6 iron around 6k or a little below, down as much as 5k then the height is no big deal and you will be optimizing the club pretty well. X100 is on the Mizuno list and is very different to PX 6.5... The PX is a counterbalanced shaft, weight in the butt and X100 is more throughout the shaft. I would be very tempted to spend some time hitting the MP 5 with the X100.

It is acceptable to move loft to help flight but moving it 2* to accommodate a shaft your already not sure about it maybe something to think about.

I did try the x100 but from memory I think it was launching a touch higher. I think this needs a visit to a range to nail it down. 2 degrees would not be to accommodate the shaft but more to lower what is a very high launch regardless of the shaft. Only concern would be that it increases distance too much and leaves a big gap at the top end of the bag.

 

[Alex1975]

I did try the x100 but from memory I think it was launching a touch higher. I think this needs a visit to a range to nail it down. 2 degrees would not be to accommodate the shaft but more to lower what is a very high launch regardless of the shaft. Only concern would be that it increases distance too much and leaves a big gap at the top end of the bag.

If I were a naturally high ball player (and I am) I would look for a shaft that spins low and not worry too much about peak height. I assume the 6200 you mention is with stock lofts?


PS can I have your MP 64?