Rafa Nadal

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I'd love to see Murray win Wimbledon and he still might as I post this but Nadal is absolutely relentless. Murray may as well be hitting against a brick wall.

Just watching is wearing me out, god knows what it must be like for Murray on the other end of it.
 
Murrays giving it to him,he played brilliant for a set and a bit,now hes quitting,he is a quitter,simples.
He has 15000 people behind him and his head is on the floor,bloody lightweight.
 
I'm not sure about that. It's like Murray has to play his best to get to the Semi whereas Nadal gets there in 2nd gear and then steps it up. Everyone talks about the top four but there is a top 3, then Murray then the rest. If someone is better than you, like Nadal is better than Murray, you just have to hold your hands up
 
Murrays giving it to him,he played brilliant for a set and a bit,now hes quitting,he is a quitter,simples.
He has 15000 people behind him and his head is on the floor,bloody lightweight.

Got to agree. He's always been a bit petulant. When things don't go his way against the better players he seems to give up. Hisbody language must be fueling Nadal's confidence.
 
I'm not sure about that. It's like Murray has to play his best to get to the Semi whereas Nadal gets there in 2nd gear and then steps it up. Everyone talks about the top four but there is a top 3, then Murray then the rest. If someone is better than you, like Nadal is better than Murray, you just have to hold your hands up

Then why bother showing up? Yes Nadal is better but he's lost before and he'll lose again. Murray's beaten him in the Aussie and US Open before
 
I'm not sure about that. It's like Murray has to play his best to get to the Semi whereas Nadal gets there in 2nd gear and then steps it up. Everyone talks about the top four but there is a top 3, then Murray then the rest. If someone is better than you, like Nadal is better than Murray, you just have to hold your hands up

Then why bother showing up? Yes Nadal is better but he's lost before and he'll lose again. Murray's beaten him in the Aussie and US Open before

Clearly he believes he can beat him. My point was he's not a quitter, he's just being beaten by a player who on the day is better than him.
 
Murrays giving it to him,he played brilliant for a set and a bit,now hes quitting,he is a quitter,simples.
He has 15000 people behind him and his head is on the floor,bloody lightweight.

P.S a lot of people said McIlroy was a bottler after the masters. Losing doesn't make you a bottler.
 
He may not be a quitter but his body language tells a very different story. He needs to sort that out big time as I think the slumped shoulders, chatter to the players box etc are not good for him
 
Murrays giving it to him,he played brilliant for a set and a bit,now hes quitting,he is a quitter,simples.
He has 15000 people behind him and his head is on the floor,bloody lightweight.

P.S a lot of people said McIlroy was a bottler after the masters. Losing doesn't make you a bottler.






No losing doesnt make you a bottler,but winning is a habit,mentally Murray is not strong enough.
As soon as things started going wrong his head was on the floor,and he quit,basically gave up.
At the end you could see his disapointment,however its too late when the match is over.
He showed fight in the first set but before you could blink he was a different player,why only he knows.
As i said i felt he quit as he had no answers,and when he did get the chances he blew them all.
So many unforced errors it was untrue.
Someone of murrays class should never get broken twice in a set.
 
match turned on the shot murray missed for 2 break points, cant make those sort of errors against nadal, like any sport when your playing the best you have to take the chances
 
Unforced errors increase when you have to play to tighter margins. What would be a clean winner against 98% of ATP professionals won't be against Nadal. His court coverage is phenomenal and that coupled with his relentless power and accuracy puts his opponents in a position where they have to go for shots that are more likely to fail.

Murray was great in the first set but Nadal was never out of it until the last game - losing a set seems to ignite a ruthlessness in him that I haven't seen in any other player.
 
why is it that people who will never, ever, get to No. 4 in the world in anything, like to pontificate and criticise someone who has??????
 
why is it that people who will never, ever, get to No. 4 in the world in anything, like to pontificate and criticise someone who has??????

we can all say that he is better than us no doubt but his body language was poor even if his talent is great.

no offensive intended but we all comment on the strengths and weaknesses of tour pros, and yes they truely do have noticeable strengths and weaknesses, its enjoyable to see different approaches to the game different swings and abilities. but we all know that we couldnt take any of them on even on an off day and beat them on a championship course. if we didnt have an interest in the top competitors in sports it would be a dull day.

in my opinion murray had accepted that he was going to lose crucial points too early in the 2nd set, he looked vunerable every time a point really mattered.

Phil
 
why is it that people who will never, ever, get to No. 4 in the world in anything, like to pontificate and criticise someone who has??????



True,but no-one ever remembers who came 4th or is 4th at anything.
However i do think Murray has the potential to win a Major,unlike Monty :)
 
I simply think Nadal was too good. Body language, petulance or not it got to a point where Murray had played arguably the best tennis he could and was losing. How hard must it be in that environment against that opponent to try and lift yourself when you've hit him with all you've got and still can't find a way through.
 
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