Quick qustion on playing before a competition

[Jay1]

I'm pretty sure that if you are entered in to a competition, you cannot go out and play a few holes before hand. As far as I know this has always been the case.

However, if a competition is held over 2 days, as most of our club comps are in winter. If I want to play both days over the weekend as the missus has been kind, can I play a social game Saturday and then the comp on Sunday. Or would I have to play the comp on day 1?

Cheers

 

[pbrown7582]

you are right you cant go and have a few holes before a comp unless its matchplay then its fine.

I think you are ok to play social round on day 1 and comp on day 2

 

[Spuddy]

you are right you cant go and have a few holes before a comp unless its matchplay then its fine.

I think you are ok to play social round on day 1 and comp on day 2

There may be a local rule so best to check with the committee.

Note to rule 7.1
“The Committee may, in the conditions of a competition (Rule 33-1), prohibit practice on the competition course on any day of a match play competition or permit practice on the competition course or part of the course (Rule 33-2c) on any day of or between rounds of a stroke play competition.”

 

[Jay1]

Oh ok. That surprises me. I would have thought that day 1 of a 2 day comp would have the same restriction as the morning before playing a normal comp in the afternoon.

Be handy if it is ok to play non comp on Saturday and then the Comp on Sunday though, if anyone can confirm this is definitely the case.

 

[Fyldewhite]

Can't find anything in the rules that covers this. I can't see why you shouldn't be able to. In the case of a normal Saturday comp we can all play Friday so I don't see why this should penalise you just because the comp is over two days. You could argue that you are playing to the same pins etc but I think the spirit of the rule is regarding practice on the same day. Still, if in doubt, ask your committee for a ruling.

 

[bladeplayer]

I'm pretty sure that if you are entered in to a competition, you cannot go out and play a few holes before hand. As far as I know this has always been the case.

However, if a competition is held over 2 days, as most of our club comps are in winter. If I want to play both days over the weekend as the missus has been kind, can I play a social game Saturday and then the comp on Sunday. Or would I have to play the comp on day 1?

Cheers

i questioned this in our place as we play over sat & sun in the same comp & some play 18 on sat evening then in the comp on sunday , seemingly its ok in our place anyhow , except in the captains & presidents when there are notices put up that you are not allowed

 

[Jay1]

The only thing I could see in the rules was 7.1, and that's not directly relevant as it seems to be based on the player being involved in both days of the comp.

The scenario of playing the day before a Saturday comp isn't really the same s you're not likely to be playing the course as it's set up for the comp. Whereas in a 2 day winter comp the tees and pins wont move between Saturday and Sunday.

There is no local rule in place so seems only option I to check it out with the pro/secretary.

 

[Colin L]

Sorry to disappoint you, Jay, but you cannot have your social game on the Saturday as that is a "competition day" and Rule 7-1b prohibits practice before a round or play-off on any day of a stroke-play competition.

 

[Jay1]

No disappointment Colin. That had been my assumption to begin with, but one of my FC's wants to play the comp on Sunday, so thought best to check.

Cheers

 

[TheJezster]

All our comps are over 2 days, Saturday and Sunday. Our course is only open until 2pm on Sunday though and it has always been the case that you have to play the comp on the Saturday if you want to play both days.

Until this year that is, at the AGM last year it was voted to allow people to play on the Saturday in a social and then play the comp on the Sunday. But they had to make a rule (unsure if they actually spoke to CONGU or whoever to do this).

 

[Old Skier]

No disappointment Colin. That had been my assumption to begin with, but one of my FC's wants to play the comp on Sunday, so thought best to check.

Cheers

Are you able to play from the other tees for the social game.

 

[Jay1]

Are you able to play from the other tees for the social game.

Hadn't even though of that!

 

[bladeplayer]

Are you able to play from the other tees for the social game.

Does it not state practice on any part of the course somewhere in the rules tho?

This one always puzzeled me

 

[Old Skier]

Does it not state practice on any part of the course somewhere in the rules tho?

This one always puzzeled me

My understanding has been different tees = different course but if I am wrong and I am reasonably sure I am not, I am sure someone with more knowledge will pop along with para and verse.

 

[Jay1]

Well one of my FC's has asked the pro shop and secretary who have said that because the comp is over different days it's ok to play the social round. It still doesn't sit right with me though, as the only thing I can see in the rules is 7.1b which does seem to prohibit it, although the rule seems more intended for 36 hole 2 day comps than this scenario.

 

[mefromhere]

We have that kind of competition at my place and although it's perfectly okay to do within the rules it is "frowned upon"

 

[rulefan]

I'm pretty sure that if you are entered in to a competition, you cannot go out and play a few holes before hand. As far as I know this has always been the case.

However, if a competition is held over 2 days, as most of our club comps are in winter. If I want to play both days over the weekend as the missus has been kind, can I play a social game Saturday and then the comp on Sunday. Or would I have to play the comp on day 1?

Cheers

Is this a 36 hole competition or two separate 18 hole competitions?
If neither how is a winner determined is some have played once and others twice? Can you play Saturday only, Sunday only or both days.

 

[Colin L]

Well one of my FC's has asked the pro shop and secretary who have said that because the comp is over different days it's ok to play the social round..

I assumed you were talking of an 18 hole Alternative Day competition played on Saturday and Sunday - i.e. each player selects on which of the 2 days he will play his 18 hole round. If that is what we are talking about, your pro shop and your Secretary are wrong if they are saying that a Sunday competitor who plays the course on the Saturday is not in breach of Rule 7-1b unless this has been explicitly permitted by the Committee in the Conditions of Competition.

And that is the simple answer if your club wants to allow Sunday competitors to play the course on Saturday: make it a condition of the competition that this is permitted. The Committee is authorised in the rules to do that. It does seem fair to do that since Saturday players could play the course on the Friday before.

Without that condition, however, it would be a breach of 7-1b for a Sunday competitor to play the course (even from different tees) on the Saturday.

 

[Jay1]

To clarify the type of competition, at my place in the winter the monthly stablefords are played over Saturday and Sunday, due to limited light restricting tee time numbers. You chose which day you want to play (or are dictaded to by tee time availability). So it's an 18 hole comp with 1 winner.

Ordinarily I'll only play one day over a weekend so this has never been an issue before. But this week I'm going out Saturday and Sunday. The preference would be to play the comp on Sunday, as the weather looks better, but my understanding of the rules was that this would be a breach. I cannot see anything in the competition rules of the club that cover this scenario but the pro and secretary have said it's ok (although I think they are wrong).

 

[Colin L]

That's an Alternative Day competition which means you are right that your pro and secretary are wrong.